[C38] Zwaadvis table pedestal, question about beneath floor clearance
D. R. Strong
drstrong at ucdavis.edu
Thu Dec 6 10:06:57 EST 2007
Max:
Hey this pedestal is /tres /cool! I have contemplated the purchase
of a similar pedestal that
was much more expensive but have been concerned about insufficient
distance from floor to hull
at the point of attachment beneath the table; what did you find?
I would love to see images of your table (and those of other
C38ers). Our table is one of the
lesser features of Discreet Charm and I want to replace it with one that
drops to support the
cushion for the settee bed.
Regards, Don
Catalina 38, Discreet Charm
Emery Cove, San Francisco Bay
Max Soto wrote:
> Hi Eldore,
>
> I purchased one of this Zwaardvis table pedestals from ebay. I had to
> build a new table since the previous owner removed it and installed a
> fridge on its place.
>
> Max Soto
> C38 #188 ESTANCIA
> Puntarenas, Costa Rica
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BOAT-TABLE-tables-Fluted-Aluminum-Table-Pedestal_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ26451QQihZ011QQitemZ320168752697QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V
> <http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BOAT-TABLE-tables-Fluted-Aluminum-Table-Pedestal_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ26451QQihZ011QQitemZ320168752697QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V>
>
>
> 2007/11/27, Alden Andre <alden642 at comcast.net
> <mailto:alden642 at comcast.net>>:
>
>
> I purchased a table from cruising concepts and love it. Email me
> and I will
> send you some pics.
>
>
> Alden Andre
> Commoore
> Columbia River All Catalinal Association
> C-38 FLYBYE
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> From: Eldore Wood <photosbyeldore at yahoo.com
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> Subject: Re: [C38] new cabin table
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> We are looking to upgrade our cabin table on our 1982 Catalina
> 38. At the
> moment the table is very awkward to manouver when having to
> convert the
> dining area into extra sleeping room. The previous owners have
> had the
> upholstry redone with 6 inch thick foam which, although very comfy
> makes it
> difficult to get your legs under the table.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions on where we could find a
> replacement -
> Iooking through the website I found pictures showing the interior of
> Incommunicado, which shows a great table.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Eldore' and Victor
>
>
> Eldore' Wood
> Photographer/Artist
> Kubili Fine Art Photography
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> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:47:13 -0800
> From: Les <hlhowell at pacbell.net <mailto:hlhowell at pacbell.net>>
> Subject: Re: [C38] early 20 gal fuel tanks, remove & replace
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> Hi, Don,
> I think the slope being referred to is between the forward
> end of
> the
> chart table and the forward end of the kitchen cabinet, where my boat
> (and I think many others) has a step down of abort 3" as you go
> forward.
> I gather from some of the mails, that some boats have a slope there.
>
> My tank is 35 gallons, and apparently was factory installed.
>
> by the way, to find small leaks of any fluid or air, we use
> talcum
> powder. Cheap talc will provide nice delineation where fluid is
> moving,
> and for some other kinds of air leaks will puff a nice little cloud.
> Also it will impart a nice smell in the process. Do not use it for
> volatile gas leaks, because it can aggravate the flame
> possibilities due
> to static. There use some of the bubble mix that plumbers use, or
> kids
> bubble soap or just mix up some good soapy water with dishwashing
> liquid.
>
> A sneaky way to find cabin leaks is to seal the cabin, and
> inflate
> it
> with a vacuum cleaner. Then use bubble solution on the windows,
> frames,
> hatches and so forth until the leak is found. That is a good time to
> wash the boat, too.
>
> Regards,
> Les H
>
> Regards,
> Les H
> On Tue, 2007-11-27 at 05:59 -0800, D. R. Strong wrote:
> > Mark:
> > Discreet Charm is hull number 50, 1980. She has a factory tank
> > that holds ca 20 gallons. The tank is about 20 inches square
> > horizontally, about 8.5 high on the outboard (starboard) side, and
> > about 12 inches high on the inboard side. It has a pinhole leak
> along
> > a welded seam. My pal and I pumped the residual fuel into a
> jerry can,
> > then got the tank out pretty easily through the underbunk access.
> > Cutting the fuel fill hose was necessary because the hose was
> fused to
> > the aluminum fill. I have been told that learned that in California
> > shops either cannot by law or will no not by sanity weld tanks that
> > have held fuel; it is not worth a drive to Reno to find a welder.
> > Upgrades to battery and freshwater strainer, etc have taken all
> extra
> > room in the area, and I could not install a larger tank without
> major
> > fiberglass surgery on the underbunk panel, which I dont want to
> do. 20
> > gallons serves me well, especially with Tom Troncalli's refueling
> > scheme installed.
> > I got an email quote of about $350 plus $35 shipping from
> > Speedytanks.com <http://Speedytanks.com>, in Pompano Beach, FL,
> a company recommended by Cree
> > at Berkeley Marine. We have temporarily reinstalled the original
> tank
> > after lots of epoxy on the leak. After the holidays and when we have
> > used the 15 gallons or so remaining in the tank, I will replace it
> > with the speedytank. I want to do perfect measurements on the
> removed
> > tank before ordering the replacement.
> > The sleuthing job to find the leak has been one of the biggest
> > pains we have had with the boat. I hope to photograph the
> replacement
> > operation and place saga on our web site.
> >
> > ps. Do any C38s not have a sloping floor?
> >
> > regards, Don
> >
> >
> > mark turner wrote:
> > > Hi Phil, The Goose is a 1981 with sloping floor. I have the
> > > rectangular under bunk access panel. My fuel tank is shaped
> like the
> > > one in the drawing (goodness knows how I would ever get it out).
> > > Can't remember how much it holds except it is more than 18
> gals. The
> > > brokers advert said 35 gals- i seem to recall it was more like 25.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: eyriepg at comcast.net <mailto:eyriepg at comcast.net>
> > > To: hlhowell at pacbell.net <mailto:hlhowell at pacbell.net>
> ; Catalina 38 Listserve
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:08 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [C38] Fuel tank tech info -- 5M attachments
> > >
> > >
> > > After comparing Les's photos of his 1982 fuel tank, which
> > > looks like the tank drawing in the tech tips part of
> the C38
> > > web site, I am concluding that this tank could not
> possibly
> > > fit under the quarterberth on my boat. The main
> problem is
> > > the my raw water through hull is in the way. Les's boat
> > > also has a larger access hole since his hole follows the
> > > chamfered shape of the quarterberth molding where my
> cutout
> > > is rectangular.
> > >
> > > Now I am wondering if any pre 1982 boats have a larger
> tank
> > > than the 18 gallon one that I have in my boat. I believe
> > > that in 1982 Catalina made a number of changes to the
> > > interior of the C38. The countertop around the sink is
> > > shaped differently and a little higher, and the floor is
> > > stepped down forward of the galley where the earlier
> floors
> > > slope down (this takes guests by surprise all the time).
> > > Any comments by pre 1982 boat owners would be very
> helpful.
> > >
> > > Phil Gay
> > > C38 049 Que Linda
> > > Everett, WA
> > >
> > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > From: Les < hlhowell at pacbell.net
> <mailto:hlhowell at pacbell.net>>
> > >
> > > > Hi, everyone,
> > > > Sorry it took me so long to get the photos
> and get
> > > them posted. Please
> > > > forgive the dirty appearance of the area
> near the
> > > fuel tank, we haven't
> > > > had time to get that cleaned up this year...
> > > >
> > > > I used a tape measure to help you see the
> > > distances. These photos can
> > > > be posted if Catalina approves.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Les H
> > > > JACE
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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