[C38] Flying an asymmetrical

Max Soto maxsoto at gmail.com
Thu Jan 24 10:40:06 EST 2008


Hi again everybody,

Thanks a lot for all the info and coments. I I buy one I have to learn how
to use it, so I really appreciate all thin info.

Max Soto
C38 ESTANCIA
Puntarenas, Costa Rica


2008/1/24, Joseph Launie <jlaunie at cox.net>:
>
> Steve,
>     The advantage of an A chute over a conventional one is more than just
> sailing short handed. The A chute lets you sail with a lot less skill and
> muscle on the foredeck. We have two conventional chutes and never use them
> for that reason.  With 60 boats racing on wednesday nite in a small town
> like Santa Barbara, skilled crew is mighty scarce. Joe /Macavity
>
> S. Orton wrote:
>
>   Hi Phil,
>
> There is an old saying: "dead down wind is dead slow", unless the pressure
> is 14 kts and up.  A look at the Cat38 polars shows an optimum run at 8 kts
> of true wind and 106 degrees relative angle  gives a boat speed of 5.1kts.  A dead down wind run  with the above conditions will give
> 3.9 knots.  At less wind velocity (4-5 kts) down wind, your spin may
> collapse further diminishing the boat speed.  I haven't done the VMG math on
> the above situation, but I suspect our polars are correct.  I personally
> believe the only advantage of an asym is sailing short handed for the
> Cat38.  For a sprit boat (J-120) that is a different story.  I do use a code
> 0 (which is a small asym of 785 sq ft.) in 4 -7 kts of true wind at 70 -110
> degrees relative angle.
>
> Steve Orton
> Santa Susanna
> Oceanside,CA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* eyriepg at comcast.net
> *To:* Catalina 38 list <Listserve at catalina38.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:10 PM
> *Subject:* [C38] Flying an asymmetrical
>
>
> I crewed on a 2002 Beneteau 411 in Everett, WA last Sunday.  It had a new
> 150% genoa and a new roller furling main.  It has a reputation of correcting
> last so I was curious about what they were doing wrong.  I have to say that,
> with its shoal wing keel, it was a slug in 6-7 knots of wind.  Also, the
> crew didn't really know how to sail the boat.
>
> The skipper has had difficulty jybing the sail outside the forestay so
> they rigged it so they jybe it like a genoa inside the forestay.  It seemed
> to work OK but they had to furl the genoa before unsocking the asym.  My
> real question concerns the efficacy of going wing and wing with the asym and
> the main.  The skipper claimed that he had the same speed going dead
> downwind this way compared to a heading with a relative wind angle of 150
> with both sail on the same side of the boat.  I have never read anything
> about sailing wing and wing with an asym and main.   Do you have any
> experience doing this?
>
> Phil Gay
> C38 049 Que Linda
> Everett, WA
>
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