[C38] snapped exhaust riser

Wed Jul 22 18:21:59 EDT 2009

I agree with Steve, It's just age.  I had to replace mine last spring; it
broke off while I was idling at the dock. It is standard galvanized pipe and
fittings you can get at your local hardware store.  The toughest part is
getting the flange off of the back of the exhaust manifold without snapping
a stud.  Ask me how I know..

Russ and Karleen Duff

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Subject: Re: [C38] snapped exhaust riser

Mike the fittings are 25 year old galvanized pipe and very corroded we were
right about the precautionary circle yellow buoy outside pt townsend small
craft and gale warnings in effect at the time saw the monster coming and
turned into it while we were still I'm the air the wave left love the c38
you will to

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On Jul 22, 2009, at 6:46 AM, "Mikenolen at aol.com" <Mikenolen at aol.com> wrote:

Howdy All

Sorry to jump in on your chat group. I'm not a C-38 owner (C-27, Standard,
fin, diesel, wheel) but the C-38 is on my short list for my next boat. So I
like reading your post and responses. Anyway, Steve, do you have any idea
why you had this failure? I know you mentioned coming down off a wave, but
was there something else you found while doing repairs that might have been
the cause, corrosion etc. or did you trip over your keel and come down
really hard on your beam?  I had my C-27 in B.C. last year and while
crossing the Strait I was burying my bow pulpit (repeatedly), got caught
just east of "Whiskey Gulf" heading for Silva, wind against current, very
rough (I do understand the "washing machine") and never had any mechanical
issues, power or rigging.  Actually it was great, like a killer powder day
on the slopes. Solo sailors have a screw loose. (more than one) LOL

Anyway just curious and again sorry for crashing your party. 

Mike and Buck (pup-1st mate)
S/V VooDoo Daddy

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In a message dated 7/22/2009 12:06:00 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com writes:

Thanks Don luckily no water just lots of exhaust in the boat due to
conditions of weather and crew I had to keep motoring until I was inside the
islands tried to put up sail but realized quickly I had to stay at the helm
as my wife was in no shape to do anything tomorrow I should have the riser
finished and can get back to vacation

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On Jul 21, 2009, at 7:31 AM, "D. R. Strong" < <mailto:drstrong at ucdavis.edu>
drstrong at ucdavis.edu> wrote:

Steve: We have experienced a similar problem. Make sure that you release
compression and spin the engine on the battery in order to get any water out
of the engine, asap. If you cannot start the engine right away, I would
recommend getting some diesel into the cylinders to prevent corrosion. It
may be that no water got into your engine. Tom T. will probably have better
advice.
Good luck
don

Steve Smolinske wrote: 

In the San juans on the way across the straits got caught in the washing
machine and came down hard off a wave snapped my exhaust riser at the flange
and mounting for the water muffler have repaired both but now my lead from
the wet elbow to the can is different and tomorrow will be working on
running the hose hoping someone with experince can offer advice on dos and
donts of bends and angles thanks all.  

Steve 

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On Jul 20, 2009, at 8:40 PM, "Joseph Launie" < <mailto:jlaunie at cox.net>
<mailto:jlaunie at cox.net> jlaunie at cox.net> wrote:

Tom,
California has collected possessory interest tax for way more than 50 years.
It is totally legal and not contestable. The courts have ruled on this one
along time ago. it is not even an issue today. Joe Launie/Macavity

Tom T. wrote: 

Here's some information on Possessory Interest Tax.

<http://www.danapointboaters.org/Files/Possessory%20Interest%20Tax/Intro%20a
nd%20Why.pdf>
<http://www.danapointboaters.org/Files/Possessory%20Interest%20Tax/Intro%20a
nd%20Why.pdf>
http://www.danapointboaters.org/Files/Possessory%20Interest%20Tax/Intro%20an
d%20Why.pdf

 <http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2000/00-2-017.html>
<http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2000/00-2-017.html>
http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2000/00-2-017.html

 <http://assessor.lacounty.gov/extranet/overview/possint.aspx>
<http://assessor.lacounty.gov/extranet/overview/possint.aspx>
http://assessor.lacounty.gov/extranet/overview/possint.aspx

It seems California needs money to cover all those illegal aliens, welfare
recipients, and other expenses and what better way than to sock it to the
rich.  (anyone with a boat is rich)

If California gets away with this tax, we are all doomed in other states
too.  The most reasonable route for appeal is that most dock fees have gone
up regularly.  Many marinas that were private are now taken over by the
California government after California failed to renew the marina leases but
the previous marina operators were paying the taxes to the state.  Now that
the marinas are no longer paying the taxes, the California government wants
the boat slip leasers to pay the tax but that is in effect a rate hike for
the slip and is a violation of most slip agreements and even some local laws
that establish the marina slip fees so this tax is contestable and should be
appealed.

Tom Troncalli

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Subject: [C38] Possessory Interests

I sail in San Francisco bay and keep my Catalina 38 in the Vallejo Marina.
If you live in Solano County you will know who Charles Lomeli is. If you
don't, he is the TAX collector for Solano County. I just received a
statement from Mr. Lomelis office that I owe the county a POSSESSORY
INTEREST tax on the slip that we rent on a monthly basis from the Vallejo
Marina. Now I've owned my boat for five years and this is the first time
I've heard of this one.

Has anyone ever heard of this tax, or is this one of those deals that
they've thrown at us because the state and every county and city in it is
going broke?  

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