[C38] Listserve Digest, Vol 5, Issue 10 Asym (alden)

alden Andre alden at clifforddevelopmentgroup.com
Mon Jan 19 14:32:46 EST 2009


If some one needs the measurements for a ASYM  I can email you the
quotes and measurements for a ASYM ,main,135 and 155 from North sails
who built my ASYM. Yes we were racing on the big ditch this weekend with
36-45 kt winds and I did not feel the need to fly the chute this weekend
,At my house at the mouth of the gorge the winds are pushing 75-80 mph.
Interesting note Saturday I went out on a new catalina 387 and Sunday I
took my boat out and I strongly feel the old 38 is a far superior boat
for handling and speed in high winds. The 387 had way to much weather
helm no matter what sail changes we did and didn't point that well. The
other thing I didn't like was to big in the cockpit and below and hard
to get wedged in and quite frankly dangerous do to the space. I am now a
firm believer in small cockpits. On Sunday when we took my boat out we
pointed higher during the race and was 2kts faster and we had stronger
winds. We found a single reef in the main and the 135 rolled to 100%
worked the best for speed and controllability.

Alden Andre
503-929-8814
Alden642 at comcast.net

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Asym (david at dlrfilms.com)
   2. Re: Asym (Phil Gay)


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Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 04:59:13 -0800 (PST)
From: david at dlrfilms.com
Subject: Re: [C38] Asym
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> need to have your sail-maker get you something called a tacker.

The tacker is available here:

http://www.atninc.com/

We use a towel and a big prussic with a snap swivel. Works the same. Not
as nifty looking.

Also we only run one sheet and pass it around the bow when gibing. I
think
the sail flies better in light air with less weight in the clew. YMMV.

To put the sail away, we head dead down wind, let the sheet fly, unsnap
the tack and bring it to the mast. Then drop the halyard and gather up
the
sail. By myself I can do this without the sail touching the water 90% of
the time. Add my 8 year old daughter and we're damn near 100%.

I talked to another C38 owner who races single handed and flies an a-sym
with the aid of a sock. Count me impressed! (with both him and the
sock!)

HTH

-D




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Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 07:59:30 -0800
From: "Phil Gay" <eyriepg at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [C38] Asym
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Steve,

 

I probably mentioned that we gybed the asym inside the luff of the asym
and
outside of the forestay.  I don't have that much experience since I was
crewing on other boats.  Congratulations on your finish as I know the
wind
were pretty light.

 

Phil

C38 049 Que Linda

Everett,WA

 

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[mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Steve Smolinske
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 10:41 PM
To: Catalina 38 Listserve
Subject: [C38] Asym

 

Hi All, 

 

We had our first race today, a very casual series and had not intended
to
fly the chute until we had had properly rigged her for easy chute work,
well
after rounding the mark and watching the other chutes go up, well the
competitveness came out and we put it up anyway.   Imagine my surprise
when
the bag marked cruising spinnaker actually had a chute cut for a much
smaller boat,  yep we had so much visibility under that sail it was
truley
amazing, not to mention a little embarrasing.  (we did finish 1 second
off
of first).  I reviewed earlier posts for asym measurements and only
found
one response with measurements.  Does anyone have any current data on
dimensions.   We also rigged it for gybing around the front of the
forestay,
with the genoa on a roller furler I didnt like the chafing of the sheet
on
the new sail, Phil you mentioned gybing it inside like a head sail, any
other suggestions, I know Alden uses the sock for each gybe. 

 

Steve

Peregrine #312

Seatte  

 

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From: Charles
Sent: Sat 1/17/2009 2:55 PM
To: Rod and Patti Headlee; Catalina 38 Listserve
Subject: Re: [C38] haul out

Rod and Patti Headlee wrote:
> Hi all, We have hauled our boat out in Pago Pago, American Samoa. I
was
wondering if you block the keel level or the boat level when you put it
on
the stands, or does it matter?  Right now they have the keel blocked
level
and the bow dips about 8 inches. We will be storing Joint Adventure on
the
hard for about a year. Thanks.
> 
> 
> Rod and Patti Headlee
> 
> S/V Joint Adventure
>  C-38 hull #12
> 
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You want to block your boat so it drains.  Otherwise you will get a pool

in the cockpit and depending where you are, moldy water accumulation on 
deck.  This could be especially problematic if it pools around chain 
plates...     If it is likely to freeze (obviously not a problem for 
you!), this is even more important as an ice block in the cockpit can 
really do some damage when it expands!   I block my keel further forward

as experience over the years has shown the infamous "smile" Rich West 
remarks about seems to be less of a problem.
One issue you might want to watch for is stand stability.  I am guessing

you are probably on some type of crushed coral, but hard rains can erode

around your boat stands.  I always get back to the boat within a few 
days of if first going on the hard to tighten up the jack stands and 
ensure the chains make sense.
 
Hope this helps,
Charles Finn
Mighty Quinn #114
Great Lakes
 
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