[C38] Diesel Generator

Tue Mar 31 16:50:38 EDT 2009

Hi Larry,
I was looking at some 3.5 kw generators, focusing mainly on size and weight,
then, their prices. Westerbeake and Masterbolt Whisper were the most
expensive ones. Not even considering Fisher Panda...

Here are the options that I was considering:

Phasor MArine LP1-3.5 kw 2800 rpm, 215lbs
Mase generators IS4.0 2.9kw 3600 rpm , 211lbs
Westerbeake 3.5BCDT, 3.5 kw, 3000rpm, 183 lbs raw water
Whisper 3.5 (3.2 kW)  (3600 rpm)
Next Gen UCM1-3.5 2600rpm 160lbs, fresh water cooled  (my favorite!!, not
too slow, not too fast. Great weight)
Apollo 3.6kw, 1800rpm, 180lbs

regards,

Max

2009/3/30 Larry Malmberg <larrypi at linkline.com>

>  Max, please share your info on the diesel generator, I’m interested.
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> *From:* listserve-bounces at catalina38.org [mailto:
> listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] *On Behalf Of *Max Soto
> *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2009 6:22 PM
> *To:* Catalina 38 Listserve
> *Subject:* [C38] Diesel Generator
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> Hi Tom,
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>
> I definitely want to go with a permanent installed Marine generator in
> order to run my air conditioning at anchor. You did a hell of a job with
> your sound shield and thanks a lot for you input!! This way will be a lot
> cheaper tan the price of a marine gen, but if I want it to be permanent, I
> think this will be the right option......
>
>
>
> Anybody on the list have installed a diesel gen on their boats??
>
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> Any toughts will be appreciated.
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>
> Regards,
>
> Max Soto
> C38 #198 ESTANCIA
> Puntarenas, Costa Rica
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> 2009/3/30 Tom T. <tdtron at earthlink.net>
>
> Hi Max,
>
>
>
> You may not want to duplicate what I did.  Instead of buying  diesel
> genset, I used a 3kw air cooled generator.  I through away the frame and gas
> tank and put the motor/generator in a sound enclosure.  It was a very big
> job but I use the genset enclosure as a helm seat also.  The genset over the
> helm seat is very quiet in the cabin, being as far as you can get from us
> and still be on the boat.  The stern area is also downwind from us.
>
>
>
> The sound enclosure and additional muffler make the genset almost totally
> quiet.  You can't hear it from the cabin when it is running.  We lost no
> storage space and gained an elevated helm seat but it was an enormous job
> making the sound enclosure.  It is made from 1/2" plywood, lined with lead
> backed foam sound deadening material and finally covered by aluminum
> sheeting on the interior.  The enclosure is vented on the bottom for hot air
> exiting of the engine and generator portions of the genset.  The intakes for
> the carb, engine cooling and generator cooling are all separate from the
> ends of the enclosure.
>
>
>
> I have tested the internal temps on a hot day with the genset running at
> full load and it never gets over about 15f above ambient
> temperatures inside.  The muffler is wrapped in heat wrap cloth to insulate
> it from adding heat inside the enclosure.
>
>
>
> The genset runs on a 6 gal gasoline tank when in use but I have a cushion
> to cover the genset instead of the gas tank when used as a helm seat.  The
> rope starter is led through a slot in the lid so it can be cranked without
> lifting the lid.  The choke is accessed from a lever on the front.  I also
> installed an engine kill switch on the outside of the enclosure so you can
> crank and stop the genset without lifting the gas tank or lid.
>
>
>
> Since these pictures were taken, I have put a deflector and grill over the
> engine intake which made it even quieter.
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>
>
> I looked at several diesel gensets before I took this route.  We have an
> inverter on board so even in winter when we don't carry the genset we still
> have 120v service.  I use the genset on my other lake boat as well since the
> genset is portable.  The sound enclosure is heavy but you would be amazed at
> how quiet we tamed this beast.  My remedy isn't exactly a match for a good
> diesel genset but it was cheaper, portable, lighter, doesn't rob any storage
> space, and it gives us a high helm seat making it much more enjoyable from
> the helm seat with the fantastic view using it.  I have a small block and
> tackle on the backstay to lift the genset to access the rear locker. I can
> lift the genset one handed with this arrangement.
>
>
>
> Sorry I couldn't help you on a diesel genset but I did want to answer your
> question.
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> If you are an idiot like me and decide to go this route, I will be glad to
> give your more information and photos.
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>
> Good luck.
>
> Tom Troncalli
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>  ----- Original Message -----
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> *From:* Max Soto <maxsoto at gmail.com>
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> *To: *tdtron at earthlink.net;Catalina 38 Listserve<listserve at catalina38.org>
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> *Sent:* 3/30/2009 4:58:13 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [C38] Measurement request
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>
>
> Hi Tom,
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>
>
> What kind of gen set are you using?? I'm planning to install a diesel gen
> but haven't decide wich one yet..
> --
> Max Soto
> C38 #198 ESTANCIA
> Puntarenas, Costa Rica
>
>
>
> 2009/3/30 Tom T. <tdtron at earthlink.net>
>
> Here is a picture of our microwave and air conditioner. I hope it comes
> through.  They are in the navigation station foot well.  This area was
> essentially useless so we used it for the microwave and air conditioner.
> The water pump for the air conditioner is under the quarter berth where it
> is easy to service and quiet.
>
>
>
> The microwave works from a transfer switch which allows us to use it with
> shore power, genset, or inverter.
>
>
>
> The location of the microwave under the navigation station is also very
> convenient to the galley.
>
>
>
> Tom Troncalli
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> Renata hull #95
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>  ----- Original Message -----
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> *From:* Joseph Launie <jlaunie at cox.net>
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> *To: *Catalina 38 Listserve <listserve at catalina38.org>
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> *Sent:* 3/30/2009 3:29:03 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [C38] Measurement request
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>
>
> Charles,
>     On Macavity we installed a small microwave in the galley by inserting
> it in the bulkhead with the oven extending into the locker. We installed it
> in the aft cabin side, above the fridge. I am going to the boat this wekend
> and will send a picture. Joe Launie/Macavity
>
> Charles wrote:
>
> I am thinking of installing a microwave oven on the port-side shelf just
> forward of the galley.  I am about 700 miles from my boat, so I was
> wondering if someone a bit closer could send me the shelf measurement
> (height and depth)?
> Why a microwave?  We drink a lot of tea,  noodles, an soup and I have the
> inverter capacity to run a 700 watt microwave. Microwave dimensions are:
> 18" wide,  11 5/8 high, 13 1/2 deep.
>
> Thanks,
> Charles Finn
> Mighty Quinn,  #114
> Great Lakes
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Max Soto
C38 #198 ESTANCIA
Puntarenas, Costa Rica
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