[C38] Photo: RP packing gland, quadrant, & autopilot hookup
Max Soto
maxsoto at gmail.com
Thu Jul 30 20:58:37 EDT 2009
That's weird!
Your packing gland and quadrant are totally different than mine.....
My quadrant is solid aluminum. Your's should be a lot lighter!!!
Max
2009/7/30 D. R. Strong <drstrong at ucdavis.edu>
> The autopilot line is red. The post sticking up and wrapped with green
> hose prevents rudder from swinging too far sideways when backing down.
> This post hits the wooden rail seen at the bottom of the photo, attached to
> the front side of the lazarette box.
> Stern is at the top of the photo. Don
>
>
>
> Les wrote:
>
> JACE has the triangular plate type of packing gland also. In addition,
> the rudder quadrant is in the way, and I don't see either the quadrant
> or its collar in the photo. I was wondering what you did to get under
> it?
>
> I know that there is a better way, but I don't know what it is. Rich,
> you sound like you have the same design I do. Is your quadrant
> (actually a disk I think) immediately above the packing gland?
>
> Regards,
> Les H
>
> On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 14:24 -0700, Richard West wrote:
>
>
> Wow, for what it's worth, your packing gland is very different from
> mine. Mine has triangular plates with thee screws and just enough
> room for about one ring of packing and no real cutout to hold it in
> place. Equally hard to work on though!
>
> Rich, Legacy, #360, San Diego
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:49 PM, D. R. Strong <drstrong at ucdavis.edu> <drstrong at ucdavis.edu>
> wrote:
> In response to requests for my packing gland packing
> experiences. This is really fun stuff (sarcasm intended).
>
> 1. I tried both the classical and the Teflon packing, and
> vastly prefer the latter. It is tougher, takes the abuse of
> insertion better, and it seems logical that the Teflon type
> should last longer. I don't remember the size of the packing
> material; middle size, not the largest or smallest. I removed
> the old stuff and the West Marine gal helped me find the
> right size. To save repeated trips, I bought three packages
> of the two sizes that seemed right, then returned the unused.
> WM readily takes refunds with receipt (because they know that
> boat addicts cannot resist a purchase each and every time they
> enter the store).
>
> 2. I removed the old packing with a tiny screw driver. A trick
> taught me by Cree at Berkeley Marine Center is to make up your
> new material on the exposed rudder post, up by the tiller
> attachment (careful, don't let the rudder sink to the bottom
> of the marina when you remove the tiller handle attachment!).
> Or, you could mic the post and use another pipe of exactly the
> same diameter. Coil the new packing material around around the
> post three times. Cut through the coil on a 45 degree angle
> with a sharp razor blade; this must be pretty easy because I
> got it right the first time. The razoring of three wraps
> procedure gives you three perfect segments, all with good cut
> angles. Treat them carefully, especially the cut edges.
>
> 3. Grease the post and the new packing material just before
> you begin. This will allow the material to readily slide into
> the slot. I'm proud of having thought of this, but feel stupid
> that I labored for hours ---butchering several packages of
> packing trying to get the material into the slot ---before the
> Lord delivered the grease idea on to me (pay off for
> memorizing the 23 Psalm at 8). I used water proof marine
> grease meant for bearings on boat trailer wheels.
>
> 4. Insert the coils with 66 degrees of rotation between the
> cuts, so as to isolate them maximally from each other.
>
> 5. Use the ring on the sliding, unfixed, bottom half (bronze
> color above the green base in the photo below) of the gland as
> a hard tool to "force" ( = easy does it) the coils of packing
> material in. Twist, pull up, and tap gently (if needs be) on
> the sliding half with a small (!) hammer or wrench handle to
> urge the insertion of the coil. DONT TAP TOO HARD OR YOU WILL
> DEFORM THE UNIT. (Note, this is the point when your wife will
> leave the boat owing to the language used by her lover). Note
> that the packing material on Discreet Charm is inserted
> upward, into the glassed on, fixed, top half of the unit.
>
> 6. I worked from the cockpit, from the top, through the stern
> lazarette. If you know a 6 year old with really long arms and
> strong hands (older kids are too big) who will work from
> below, go for it. My first try (which failed because the
> insertion of the packing material was sloppy; edges did not
> line up) gave me a bad bruise across the chest at the point of
> contact between me and the rim of the lazarette. Place a thin
> cushion or towel between your chest and the on the rim of the
> lazarette to prevent this unpleasant trophy of packing gland
> replacement .
>
> Love Don
>
>
>
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> Discreet Charm
> Catalina 38
> San Fancisco Bay
>
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