[C38] the west coast bash is hell
alden Andre
alden at clifforddevelopmentgroup.com
Tue Mar 2 01:39:20 EST 2010
Ben there done it 3 times SF to Portland. All I can say is do the
pacific cup to the islands and then go to seattle. The coast from Sf to
Oregon is on the top 10 of the roughest oceans and capes in the world
from may to sep. My last trip was from Oakland to Portland in a Catalina
380 and it was the trip from hell. My son will not go offshore again
with me due to that trip. If you like 30 ft waves with another 7 ft wind
chop and 30-50 kt winds this is the trip for you. And it dosent matter
if you even go 300 miles off shore it is just as bad. You cant sail
because of the the way CA coast angles out going north and the
prevailing winds so you are motor bashing all the way. On the last trip
we almost made it to Gold beach (Oregon)but had to turn around and run
south to Fort Brag due to fuel and equipment failures.Now going south
with a half reefed main and surfing at 11=15 kts was fun but scary. When
we were driving home on I-5 in a rental car my son commented dad why
have we passed 5 sail boats on trailers going north and none going
south. If you would like to call me and talk about the trip feel free to
call me any time. My suggestion is put it on a truck to seattle and then
sail south. It would be cheaper and faster than repairing your boat
after making the trip.
Alden Andre (AKA Cpt. Bilgewater)
S/V FLYBYE
503-929-8814
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4. Re: Attn. West Coast sailors (Steve Smolinske)
5. Exhaust system check valve (Phil Gay)
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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:44:30 -0800
From: "D. R. Strong" <drstrong at ucdavis.edu>
Subject: Re: [C38] wow, north along the Pacific coast?
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Anders: It won't be much sailing from here to Puget sound unless you go
the great circle via Hawaii. The direct route takes you bashing into
north winds and waves. Another way of putting it is as "one mutha of a
motor" against prevailing winds with widely separated, difficult to
enter, refuges . A guy in our marina did it in some huge nordic trawler
and used multiple thousands of gallons of fuel. He stayed up there two
years before returning, then boasted about how his boat could go
anywhere. Another guy I know cruised his 40 foot sailboat from SF to
Puget Sound on I10 at 55 mph behind a truck that he hired, then he
cruised back down by the same route. Said he had a lovely time. An
oceanographer friend of mine begins technical presentations with the
observation that norCal, Oregon, and Washington combine to make the
windiest coast in the world outside of the Southern Ocean.
Don
Anders Finn wrote:
> I've never been out there but if you need any crew for a portion of it
> to or from SF, gimme a shout!
>
> Anders
>
> On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 16:17 -0800, ssorton at sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
>> This summer during July/August I'm contemplating sailing our boat
from
>> Southern California North to Puget Sound- some 1450 miles. The
>> distance actually traveled could be twice the point to point distance
>> due head winds. My question to the Cat 38 group is, does anybody
have
>> experience making this trip? Do you follow the coast putting into 3
>> or 4 ports, or sail westerly and make a right return?
>>
>> Thank you for any advice, Steve Orton (Santa Susanna- # 304)
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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 01:54:07 +0000
From: mncameron at att.net
Subject: Re: [C38] Attn. West Coast sailors
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I haven't done the trip but I know several people who have, and none
would do it again in July or August. By July the winds have changed to
predominantly out of the North or NW in the OR, WA area. April and May
are much better months to head north, the winds will not be on your nose
the whole time, but it will be cold. Many folks do head west to Hawaii
and then head for Vancouver to avoid the long slog against the wind
going up the coast . Going south that time of year is downhill, hence
all the folks going to Baja then and returning the following late
spring.
michael
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This summer during July/August I'm contemplating sailing our boat from
Southern California North to Puget Sound- some 1450 miles. The distance
actually traveled could be twice the point to point distance due head
winds. My question to the Cat 38 group is, does anybody have experience
making this trip? Do you follow the coast putting into 3 or 4 ports, or
sail westerly and make a right return?
Thank you for any advice, Steve Orton (Santa Susanna- # 304)
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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:37:50 -0800
From: Joseph Launie <jlaunie at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [C38] Attn. West Coast sailors
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Steve,
I would talk to several professional skippers. One who I have
discussed this with says to keep one foot on the beach - go up close to
shore because it gets a lot worse further out. I would harbor hop up
with a lot more stops than you have mentioned. Joe Launie/Macavity
ssorton at sbcglobal.net wrote:
> This summer during July/August I'm contemplating sailing our boat from
> Southern California North to Puget Sound- some 1450 miles. The
> distance actually traveled could be twice the point to point distance
> due head winds. My question to the Cat 38 group is, does anybody have
> experience making this trip? Do you follow the coast putting into 3
> or 4 ports, or sail westerly and make a right return?
>
> Thank you for any advice, Steve Orton (Santa Susanna- # 304)
>
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:33:03 -0800
From: "Steve Smolinske" <SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com>
Subject: Re: [C38] Attn. West Coast sailors
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Let me introduce Randy to the group, Randy has made the trip from SF to
Seattle several times I loved the two stories about how the last wind
reading they got was 50 knots before the wind instruments blew off the
mast, or how the wind and waves made the Columbia Bar at Astoria during
an incoming tide look like a walk in the park. I'll let Randy answer
the question rather than relay info:
Steve
Peregrine #312
Seattle
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Subject: Re: [C38] Attn. West Coast sailors
Steve,
I would talk to several professional skippers. One who I have
discussed this with says to keep one foot on the beach - go up close to
shore because it gets a lot worse further out. I would harbor hop up
with a lot more stops than you have mentioned. Joe Launie/Macavity
ssorton at sbcglobal.net wrote:
This summer during July/August I'm contemplating sailing our
boat from Southern California North to Puget Sound- some 1450 miles.
The distance actually traveled could be twice the point to point
distance due head winds. My question to the Cat 38 group is, does
anybody have experience making this trip? Do you follow the coast
putting into 3 or 4 ports, or sail westerly and make a right return?
Thank you for any advice, Steve Orton (Santa Susanna- # 304)
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:45:38 -0800
From: "Phil Gay" <eyriepg at comcast.net>
Subject: [C38] Exhaust system check valve
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Dear List,
I finally finished my exhaust system upgrade on my Yanmar 3GM30 from 1
5/8"
to 2." I replaced the check valve downstream from the water lift
muffler.
The flapper in the old valve was lying at the bottom of the valve
unattached
to anything. I like the more relaxed sound of my exhaust now.
However, the new 2" check valve clanks when the engine is running. I
suspect that the bronze flapper is banging against the upper surface of
the
check valve rather than the surface that it closes against. I suppose
that
I could put a drop of sealant on the downside surface of the flapper to
deaden the noise. Has anyone else encounter this annoying clanking?
How
did you solve it?
Phil Gay
C38 049 Que Linda
Everett, WA
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