[C38] Listserve Digest, Vol 6, Issue 286

Sun Aug 8 15:19:39 EDT 2010

Fellows,
 We're all about BOATS; This beiongs in the 'ECONOMIST"
 
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> 1. Re: Who Does our Economy Serve? (Larry Malmberg)
> 2. Re: Who Does our Economy Serve? (bikahoga at aol.com)
> 3. Re: Who Does our Economy Serve? (Bill Haynes)
> 4. Re: Who Does our Economy Serve? (Larry Malmberg)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 09:14:52 -0700
> From: "Larry Malmberg" <larrypi at linkline.com>
> To: "'Catalina 38 Listserve'" <listserve at catalina38.org>
> Subject: Re: [C38] Who Does our Economy Serve?
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> Does this really belong on the list?
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> Best regards,
> 
> Larry Malmberg-President
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> 505 North Arrowhead Avenue - Suite 510
> San Bernardino, CA 92401-1200
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> From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
> [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haynes
> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 6:41 AM
> To: Catalina 38 Listserve
> Subject: Re: [C38] Who Does our Economy Serve?
> 
> 
> Paul, Thom has stated the plight of the middleclass in this country so much
> better than I could. Sure, you know some middleclass folks who are doing
> pretty well. I do also. However, taken as a whole, the middleclass is not
> doing so well. Read this and then let me know what you would do about it.
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> Thom's blog
> Who Does our Economy Serve?
> Ed Luce with The Financial Times' has documented the "crisis of middle-class
> America." He notes the "median wage stagnation" that has hit most American
> families, and writes, "the annual incomes of the bottom 90 per cent of US
> families have been essentially flat since 1973....That means most Americans
> have been treading water for more than a generation." At the same time, the
> Financial Times notes, America's CEOs have seen their compensation go up
> over a hundredfold. The result is a level of inequality not seen in this
> country since 1929, and the conversion of the middle class of 1940 to 1980,
> into the terrified working poor of the post Reaganomics era, the vast
> majority of whom live paycheck to paycheck, with no significant savings, and
> only a job loss and a few weeks from being homeless and on the streets.
> 
> The new GDP report shows our economic growth slowed to a 2.4 percent rate in
> the second quarter, too slow to put Americans back to work. Much more
> worrisome are details in this report pointing to a continued slowdown this
> year. According to a recent survey by the Employee Benefit Research
> Institute, workers are cashing in their retirement plans just to stay
> afloat. Their grim statistics show the percentage of American workers who
> have less than $10,000 in savings grew to 43 percent in 2010. Almost 25% of
> all workers have postponed their planned retirement in the past year. A
> CareerBuilder.com survey reports that 61 percent of workers are now living
> paycheck to paycheck, as compared to 43 percent in 2007. Meanwhile, Bankers
> at the big Wall Street banks wrapped up their best month in a year. This
> begs a question. Economic activity happens in America because government
> authorizes corporations and gives substantial benefits and limitations of
> liability to those few individuals who own most of corporate America. Thus
> the question: Is this economy our Government has created here to serve the
> wealthy people who own it, or did we bring it into being and do we support
> and maintain it so it can benefit average working people, and thus
> Democracy?
> 
> -Thom
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> From: bikahoga at aol.com
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> Subject: Re: [C38] Who Does our Economy Serve?
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> I don't think so?!?! 
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> Brett 
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> From: "Larry Malmberg" <larrypi at linkline.com>
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> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 09:14:52 
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> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 12:51:14 -0400
> From: "Bill Haynes" <hayneswm at charter.net>
> To: "Catalina 38 Listserve" <listserve at catalina38.org>
> Subject: Re: [C38] Who Does our Economy Serve?
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> Oooops, sorry for this post. It was meant for one of my retired AF buddies.
> 
> Bill
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Bill Haynes 
> To: Catalina 38 Listserve 
> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 9:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [C38] Who Does our Economy Serve?
> 
> 
> Paul, Thom has stated the plight of the middleclass in this country so much better than I could. Sure, you know some middleclass folks who are doing pretty well. I do also. However, taken as a whole, the middleclass is not doing so well. Read this and then let me know what you would do about it.
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> Thom's blog
> Who Does our Economy Serve?
> Ed Luce with The Financial Times' has documented the "crisis of middle-class America." He notes the "median wage stagnation" that has hit most American families, and writes, "the annual incomes of the bottom 90 per cent of US families have been essentially flat since 1973....That means most Americans have been treading water for more than a generation." At the same time, the Financial Times notes, America's CEOs have seen their compensation go up over a hundredfold. The result is a level of inequality not seen in this country since 1929, and the conversion of the middle class of 1940 to 1980, into the terrified working poor of the post Reaganomics era, the vast majority of whom live paycheck to paycheck, with no significant savings, and only a job loss and a few weeks from being homeless and on the streets.
> 
> The new GDP report shows our economic growth slowed to a 2.4 percent rate in the second quarter, too slow to put Americans back to work. Much more worrisome are details in this report pointing to a continued slowdown this year. According to a recent survey by the Employee Benefit Research Institute, workers are cashing in their retirement plans just to stay afloat. Their grim statistics show the percentage of American workers who have less than $10,000 in savings grew to 43 percent in 2010. Almost 25% of all workers have postponed their planned retirement in the past year. A CareerBuilder.com survey reports that 61 percent of workers are now living paycheck to paycheck, as compared to 43 percent in 2007. Meanwhile, Bankers at the big Wall Street banks wrapped up their best month in a year. This begs a question. Economic activity happens in America because government authorizes corporations and gives substantial benefits and limitations of liability to those few individuals who own most of corporate America. Thus the question: Is this economy our Government has created here to serve the wealthy people who own it, or did we bring it into being and do we support and maintain it so it can benefit average working people, and thus Democracy?
> 
> -Thom
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> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 09:55:17 -0700
> From: "Larry Malmberg" <larrypi at linkline.com>
> To: "'Catalina 38 Listserve'" <listserve at catalina38.org>
> Subject: Re: [C38] Who Does our Economy Serve?
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> Thought it was probably a mistake, it happens to all of us from time to
> time.
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> Best regards,
> 
> Larry Malmberg-President
> 
> Larry Malmberg Investigations and Security, Inc.
> 505 North Arrowhead Avenue - Suite 510
> San Bernardino, CA 92401-1200
> 909-383-8565, 800-655-4549 Facsimile 909-383-8566
> PI 15211, PPO 112446
> 
> <http://www.larrypi.com/> www.larrypi.com
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> 
> All incoming and outgoing e mail is scanned with Norton AntiVirus.
> 
> Civil and Criminal, Surveillance, Internal Investigations, Personal and
> Personnel Protection, GPS Tracking and Rental.
> 
> 
> 
> Life is short, Break the rules, Forgive quickly, Kiss slowly, Love truly,
> Laugh uncontrollably, And never regret anything that made you smile..
> 
> 
> 
> "The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control
> immigration"
> 
> 
> "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in
> a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
> thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming; WOW-- What a
> Ride!"
> 
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> From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
> [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haynes
> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 9:51 AM
> To: Catalina 38 Listserve
> Subject: Re: [C38] Who Does our Economy Serve?
> 
> 
> Oooops, sorry for this post. It was meant for one of my retired AF buddies.
> 
> Bill
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Bill <mailto:hayneswm at charter.net> Haynes 
> To: Catalina 38 Listserve <mailto:listserve at catalina38.org> 
> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 9:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [C38] Who Does our Economy Serve?
> 
> Paul, Thom has stated the plight of the middleclass in this country so much
> better than I could. Sure, you know some middleclass folks who are doing
> pretty well. I do also. However, taken as a whole, the middleclass is not
> doing so well. Read this and then let me know what you would do about it.
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> Thom's blog
> Who Does our Economy Serve?
> Ed Luce with The Financial Times' has documented the "crisis of middle-class
> America." He notes the "median wage stagnation" that has hit most American
> families, and writes, "the annual incomes of the bottom 90 per cent of US
> families have been essentially flat since 1973....That means most Americans
> have been treading water for more than a generation." At the same time, the
> Financial Times notes, America's CEOs have seen their compensation go up
> over a hundredfold. The result is a level of inequality not seen in this
> country since 1929, and the conversion of the middle class of 1940 to 1980,
> into the terrified working poor of the post Reaganomics era, the vast
> majority of whom live paycheck to paycheck, with no significant savings, and
> only a job loss and a few weeks from being homeless and on the streets.
> 
> The new GDP report shows our economic growth slowed to a 2.4 percent rate in
> the second quarter, too slow to put Americans back to work. Much more
> worrisome are details in this report pointing to a continued slowdown this
> year. According to a recent survey by the Employee Benefit Research
> Institute, workers are cashing in their retirement plans just to stay
> afloat. Their grim statistics show the percentage of American workers who
> have less than $10,000 in savings grew to 43 percent in 2010. Almost 25% of
> all workers have postponed their planned retirement in the past year. A
> CareerBuilder.com survey reports that 61 percent of workers are now living
> paycheck to paycheck, as compared to 43 percent in 2007. Meanwhile, Bankers
> at the big Wall Street banks wrapped up their best month in a year. This
> begs a question. Economic activity happens in America because government
> authorizes corporations and gives substantial benefits and limitations of
> liability to those few individuals who own most of corporate America. Thus
> the question: Is this economy our Government has created here to serve the
> wealthy people who own it, or did we bring it into being and do we support
> and maintain it so it can benefit average working people, and thus
> Democracy?
> 
> -Thom
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