[C38] Listserve Digest, Trans Pac and engine hard to start, steering (alden)
alden Andre
alden at clifforddevelopmentgroup.com
Thu Nov 18 11:20:12 EST 2010
On the engine
1. Engine Start-check all fuel systems starting at the fuel tank and the
on and off valve at the fuel tank. Mine this year was half closed,
burned up a fuel pump(my fault moved it when installing new refrigerator
pump and lines. . before this the engine was getting harder and harder
to start. Then the rest of the suggestions are fine. You need fuel air
and compression for a deisel motor to run. Also in Portland the
preheater glow plug has to work for the first start of the day.
2. Trans Pac- Steve since you are doing all these secrete mods are you
willing for a northwest 38 member to come up and take a gander at the
projects? I think we need to have a northwest 38 contingent gathering at
the Seattle boat show this year. I was at the local boat yard (schooner
creek ) and Roy Disney's boat is there getting 23 more feet added to it
for its new owner. I was checking out some other modifications they were
doing also that could help your boat beat the southern CA surfer dudes
boat. Also since one of my companies has aerodynamic engineers(we
specialize in making airplanes go faster and more efficient) we would be
happy to help you out any way we can so the northwest will hold the
Fastest to the island title. If you won maybe we could get the Catalina
38 nationals moved to Seattle. I wonder if the Southern CA guys would be
willing to put that on the table as a bet??????? Probably not they would
all have to buy wet weather gear, and the rain would mess up their 300
dollar haircuts. Also they wouldn't know what to do in wind higher than
15 kts. I think 25-40 kts would freak them out. Just some thoughts.
3. Steering- I think I read some one was interested in a steering column
stiffing mod. Well I did one if you would like some pics just email or
call me.
Alden Andre
Cpt BilgeWater S/V FLYBYE C-38
503-929-8814
Alden642 at comcast.net
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2. Re: I Believe I Can Fly (Bill Haynes)
3. Re: Listserve Digest, Vol 6, Issue 369 Heater (alden andre)
(RICHARD KILROY)
4. Re: Listserve Digest, Vol 6, Issue 369 Heater (alden andre)
(RICHARD KILROY)
5. Re: Listserve Digest, Vol 6, Issue 369 Heater (alden andre)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 21:58:27 -0800
From: Joseph Launie <jlaunie at cox.net>
To: listserve at catalina38.org
Subject: Re: [C38] Listserve Digest, Vol 6, Issue 371 Cabin heater
(alden Andre)
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Larry,
You can never match the transpac with the Islander 37 which Sid
Blender later bought and became the first Super Star. The story is very
long but the high points are this pack of clowns decided to transpac
without having a clue. They were yacht brokers from Marina del Rey. I
talked them out of taking the cleats off so they could handhold the
sails. Anyway, halfway across they sent out an SOS because the hull/deck
joint was leaking so badly they thought they were going to sink. A US
Navy nuclear sub was nearest and they towed them halfway of the
remaining distance to Hawaii when a commecial tug took over. Joe
On 11/17/2010 3:41 PM, Larry Malmberg Live wrote:
>
> Ahhhh Phil, we need to keep the banter up a bit, I mean this is
probably the
> first Trans Pac with two Catalina 38's in it.
>
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Larry Malmberg
> Team Hassle
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
> [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Phil Gay
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 3:37 PM
> To: 'Catalina 38 Listserve'
> Subject: Re: [C38] Listserve Digest, Vol 6,Issue 371 Cabin heater
(alden
> Andre)
>
> Larry,
>
> As a friend of Steve's, I think team HASSLE is very appropriately
named.
>
> Also a question for
>
> Chuck,
>
> How much propane storage capacity do you have, where is it located,
and how
> long does a 10lb tank last with the Dickinson?
>
> Phil Gay
> C38 049 Que Linda
> Everett, WA
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Larry Malmberg
Live
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 3:23 PM
> To: 'Catalina 38 Listserve'
> Subject: Re: [C38] Listserve Digest, Vol 6, Issue 371 Cabin heater
(alden
> Andre)
>
> Leave it to Alden to notice the missing mast and me the
"racing/sailing
> fluid" LOL
>
> BTW Steve Smolenski, take note of the "sailing fluid" you and your
crew will
> need ton's/gallons of this for the Trans Pac. I found the more we
drink the
> faster we go so I suggest each of your crew members and you drink at
least a
> gallon of "fluid" before the start on July 4th 2011. Just some
friendly
> advice here. It'll make you go real fast.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Larry Malmberg
> Team Hassle
>
>
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> [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of alden Andre
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 2:48 PM
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> Subject: Re: [C38] Listserve Digest, Vol 6,Issue 371 Cabin heater
(alden
> Andre)
>
> Thanks for the photos. I just purchased a force 10 CNG heater since my
boat
> is CNG and it was brand new in the box for 100.00(it was pure luck I
found
> it and being cng since they don't make cng anymore). I have been
pondering a
> heat system for quite some time. I have a espar dl4 on my 30 I could
remove
> and put on the 38 but I have found I don't really care for it. It is
noisy
> and drains the batteries. I think I will supplement the force 10 cozy
cabin
> heater with a red dot heater off of the engine mounted low on the
quarter
> birth facing forward. So my next question.
> Has any one installed a red dot heater ? Oh by the way in the pic with
the
> stove why is the mast missing?
>
> Alden Andre
>
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> 1. Re: difficulty starting (Les)
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> 3. Re: Listserve Digest, Vol 6, Issue 369 Heater (alden andre)
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> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:04:34 -0800
> From: Les<hlhowell at pacbell.net>
> To: Catalina 38 Listserve<listserve at catalina38.org>
> Subject: Re: [C38] difficulty starting
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> On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 08:53 -0800, Patrick Harpole wrote:
>
>> I have a 3 cylinder Universal Diesel and sometimes it will not start.
>>
> I
>
>> have changed the fuel pump and the fuel filter.
>> Sometimes when I bleed it, it will start. Other times it won't.
>> Can it get "flooded"?
>> Patrick on the San Francisco Bay
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> Check the solenoid that powers the glow plugs. If the preheat current
is
> not sufficient, the engine doesn't get warm enough for the prestart.
> Also check the connections to that whole circuit. I don't know why
bleeding
> it would help. But maybe someone else has some other experience. If
> bleeding always helped, then I would be suspicious of a bad fuel line
or a
> poor seal on one of the filters, letting air into the fuel system.
>
> Regards,
> Les H
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:12:18 -0800
> From: "Steve Smolinske"<SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com>
> To:<hlhowell at pacbell.net>, "Catalina 38 Listserve"
> <listserve at catalina38.org>
> Subject: Re: [C38] difficulty starting
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> Check your fuel supply for water. Had the same problem after swiftsure
tore
> entire fuel system apart checking fuel pump and filters, bleed the
lines
> etc. Look at the bowls on your fuel separators there should be
> very little water in them.
> Steve Smolinske
>
> On Nov 17, 2010, at 2:04 PM, "Les"<hlhowell at pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>
>>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 17:11:51 -0500
> From: Chuck Finn<charles at finn.ws>
> To: Catalina 38 Listserve<listserve at catalina38.org>
> Subject: Re: [C38] Listserve Digest, Vol 6, Issue 369 Heater (alden
> andre)
> Message-ID:<4CE45327.2040606 at finn.ws>
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>
> Below is a picture of my heater on the Mighty Quinn (the two guys in
the
>
> picture were part of my crew doing what we do best)!
>
> This is the Dickenson Newport propane heater. I like it because
> installation is easy compared to the diesel types and it really does
heat
> the cabin. It does not draw combustion air from the cabin, which
> means I never have to worry about carbon monoxide or propane gasses.
> I had one of their fireplaces on a previous boat that could burn wood
or
>
> coal, but the propane version is so much easier to use and keep clean.
> Probably the best part is you can get right up next to it to warm up
(just
> like a stove). Besides, my wife says they are pretty and really do
dry out
> the cabin.
>
> Chuck Finn
> Mighty Quinn #114
> Great (frigid) Lakes
>
> On 11/17/2010 2:33 PM, Phil Gay wrote:
>
>> Steve,
>>
>> I am planning to put some heat on Que Linda as well this winter and
am
>> interested in your choices. There are probably other cool weather
>>
> sailors
>
>> who would be interested.
>>
>> BTW thanks for putting a pertinent well illustrated article in the
>>
> Technical
>
>> part of the November "Mainsheet."
>>
>> Phil Gay
>> C38 049 Que Linda
>> Everett, WA
>>
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:55:08 -0500
From: "Bill Haynes" <hayneswm at charter.net>
To: "Catalina 38 Listserve" <listserve at catalina38.org>
Subject: Re: [C38] I Believe I Can Fly
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Paul, Thomas Friedman published an article yesterday that reflects my
thoughts on Climate Change extremely well. I have extracted two
paragraphs from it. Check it out and let me know what you think.
Bill
I Believe I Can Fly
Reading the headlines these days, I can't help but repeat this truism:
If you jump off the top of an 80-story building, for 79 floors you can
think you're flying. It's the sudden stop at the end that tells you
you're not. It's striking to me how many leaders and nations are
behaving today as though they think they can fly - and ignoring that
sudden stop at the end that's sure to come.
Closer to home, America's climate-deniers mounted an effective
disinformation campaign that made "climate change" a four-letter word in
the Republican Party. This undermined efforts to get a clean energy bill
- the sort that might break our addiction to oil and take money away
from the people our soldiers are fighting in the Middle East. And all of
this happened in 2010, which is on track to be the Earth's hottest year
on record. So here's the math: 98 climate scientists out of 100 will
tell you that man's continued carbon emissions pose the risk of
disruptive climate change this century. Two out of 100 will tell you it
doesn't. And "conservatives" today tell you to bet on the two. If the
climate-deniers are right - but we combat climate change anyway - we'll
have slightly higher energy prices but cleaner air, more renewable
energy, a stronger dollar, more innovative industries and enemies with
less money. If the deniers are wrong and we do nothing, your kids will
meet the su
dden stop at the end.
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:54:38 -0500
From: "RICHARD KILROY" <dickkilroy at comcast.net>
To: "Catalina 38 Listserve" <listserve at catalina38.org>
Subject: Re: [C38] Listserve Digest, Vol 6, Issue 369 Heater (alden
andre)
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I had mine replaced on Tortola about 5 years ago to the tune of about $
3000.00, there is a nineteen % import tax in the BVI.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Launie" <jlaunie at cox.net>
To: <listserve at catalina38.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: [C38] Listserve Digest, Vol 6, Issue 369 Heater (alden
andre)
> Larry,
>
> Macavity carries some to avoid scurvy. I am pulling the mast and
> replacing the standing rigging including turnbuckles because of age.
Has
> anyone dune this recenly and have an idea of cost? Joe Launie/Macavity
>
> On 11/17/2010 3:14 PM, Larry Malmberg Live wrote:
> > Ahhh yes, racing fluid, I would recognize it anywhere.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Larry Malmberg
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
> > [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Finn
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 2:12 PM
> > To: Catalina 38 Listserve
> > Subject: Re: [C38] Listserve Digest, Vol 6, Issue 369 Heater (alden
andre)
> >
> > Below is a picture of my heater on the Mighty Quinn (the two guys in
the
> > picture were part of my crew doing what we do best)!
> >
> > This is the Dickenson Newport propane heater. I like it because
> > installation is easy compared to the diesel types and it really does
heat
> > the cabin. It does not draw combustion air from the cabin, which
> > means I never have to worry about carbon monoxide or propane gasses.
> > I had one of their fireplaces on a previous boat that could burn
wood or
> > coal, but the propane version is so much easier to use and keep
clean.
> > Probably the best part is you can get right up next to it to warm up
(just
> > like a stove). Besides, my wife says they are pretty and really do
dry
out
> > the cabin.
> >
> > Chuck Finn
> > Mighty Quinn #114
> > Great (frigid) Lakes
> >
> > On 11/17/2010 2:33 PM, Phil Gay wrote:
> >
> >> Steve,
> >>
> >> I am planning to put some heat on Que Linda as well this winter and
am
> >> interested in your choices. There are probably other cool weather
> >> sailors who would be interested.
> >>
> >> BTW thanks for putting a pertinent well illustrated article in the
> >> Technical part of the November "Mainsheet."
> >>
> >> Phil Gay
> >> C38 049 Que Linda
> >> Everett, WA
> >>
> >
> >
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:09:18 -0500
From: "RICHARD KILROY" <dickkilroy at comcast.net>
To: "Catalina 38 Listserve" <listserve at catalina38.org>
Subject: Re: [C38] Listserve Digest, Vol 6, Issue 369 Heater (alden
andre)
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Joe: the $3000.00 did not include the turnbuckles, just the wire and
swedges.
Dick
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From: "Joseph Launie" <jlaunie at cox.net>
To: <listserve at catalina38.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: [C38] Listserve Digest, Vol 6, Issue 369 Heater (alden
andre)
> Larry,
>
> Macavity carries some to avoid scurvy. I am pulling the mast and
> replacing the standing rigging including turnbuckles because of age.
Has
> anyone dune this recenly and have an idea of cost? Joe Launie/Macavity
>
> On 11/17/2010 3:14 PM, Larry Malmberg Live wrote:
> > Ahhh yes, racing fluid, I would recognize it anywhere.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Larry Malmberg
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
> > [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Finn
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 2:12 PM
> > To: Catalina 38 Listserve
> > Subject: Re: [C38] Listserve Digest, Vol 6, Issue 369 Heater (alden
andre)
> >
> > Below is a picture of my heater on the Mighty Quinn (the two guys in
the
> > picture were part of my crew doing what we do best)!
> >
> > This is the Dickenson Newport propane heater. I like it because
> > installation is easy compared to the diesel types and it really does
heat
> > the cabin. It does not draw combustion air from the cabin, which
> > means I never have to worry about carbon monoxide or propane gasses.
> > I had one of their fireplaces on a previous boat that could burn
wood or
> > coal, but the propane version is so much easier to use and keep
clean.
> > Probably the best part is you can get right up next to it to warm up
(just
> > like a stove). Besides, my wife says they are pretty and really do
dry
out
> > the cabin.
> >
> > Chuck Finn
> > Mighty Quinn #114
> > Great (frigid) Lakes
> >
> > On 11/17/2010 2:33 PM, Phil Gay wrote:
> >
> >> Steve,
> >>
> >> I am planning to put some heat on Que Linda as well this winter and
am
> >> interested in your choices. There are probably other cool weather
> >> sailors who would be interested.
> >>
> >> BTW thanks for putting a pertinent well illustrated article in the
> >> Technical part of the November "Mainsheet."
> >>
> >> Phil Gay
> >> C38 049 Que Linda
> >> Everett, WA
> >>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:12:06 -0500
From: "RICHARD KILROY" <dickkilroy at comcast.net>
To: "Catalina 38 Listserve" <listserve at catalina38.org>
Subject: Re: [C38] Listserve Digest, Vol 6, Issue 369 Heater (alden
andre)
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Joe: and guys, it must be too early for me, sorry about sending 3
replys on
this, the 19% tax is on the wire.
Dick
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From: "Joseph Launie" <jlaunie at cox.net>
To: <listserve at catalina38.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: [C38] Listserve Digest, Vol 6, Issue 369 Heater (alden
andre)
> Larry,
>
> Macavity carries some to avoid scurvy. I am pulling the mast and
> replacing the standing rigging including turnbuckles because of age.
Has
> anyone dune this recenly and have an idea of cost? Joe Launie/Macavity
>
> On 11/17/2010 3:14 PM, Larry Malmberg Live wrote:
> > Ahhh yes, racing fluid, I would recognize it anywhere.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Larry Malmberg
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
> > [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Finn
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 2:12 PM
> > To: Catalina 38 Listserve
> > Subject: Re: [C38] Listserve Digest, Vol 6, Issue 369 Heater (alden
andre)
> >
> > Below is a picture of my heater on the Mighty Quinn (the two guys in
the
> > picture were part of my crew doing what we do best)!
> >
> > This is the Dickenson Newport propane heater. I like it because
> > installation is easy compared to the diesel types and it really does
heat
> > the cabin. It does not draw combustion air from the cabin, which
> > means I never have to worry about carbon monoxide or propane gasses.
> > I had one of their fireplaces on a previous boat that could burn
wood or
> > coal, but the propane version is so much easier to use and keep
clean.
> > Probably the best part is you can get right up next to it to warm up
(just
> > like a stove). Besides, my wife says they are pretty and really do
dry
out
> > the cabin.
> >
> > Chuck Finn
> > Mighty Quinn #114
> > Great (frigid) Lakes
> >
> > On 11/17/2010 2:33 PM, Phil Gay wrote:
> >
> >> Steve,
> >>
> >> I am planning to put some heat on Que Linda as well this winter and
am
> >> interested in your choices. There are probably other cool weather
> >> sailors who would be interested.
> >>
> >> BTW thanks for putting a pertinent well illustrated article in the
> >> Technical part of the November "Mainsheet."
> >>
> >> Phil Gay
> >> C38 049 Que Linda
> >> Everett, WA
> >>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Listserve mailing list
> > Listserve at catalina38.org
> > http://catalina38.org/mailman/listinfo/listserve_catalina38.org
> >
> >
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