[C38] Sails
alden Andre
alden at clifforddevelopmentgroup.com
Mon Mar 8 17:22:26 EST 2010
Don Ill take those sails off your hands. Give me a call on my cell.
Alden Andre (AKA Cpt. Bilgewater)
S/V FLYBYE
503-929-8814
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Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 10:41:10 -0800
From: PAUL NOTTE <panotte at shaw.ca>
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Subject: Re: [C38] oregon offshore
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Alden , I havn't raced anything with a sail since I was 12 years old,
I'm 62 now and the crew of the Impulse consists of a wife who won't get
on the boat if the sails are going to be raised and a 15 yr old who
thinks the coolest thing ever is the inverter so he can play his x-box
while under way.
I will however bring the boat down to add moral support.
Paul
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Date: Friday, March 5, 2010 9:03 am
Subject: Re: [C38] oregon offshore
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> Paul yes the race does end in victoria harbor. You should bring
> your boat down with steve then we could have our own class.
> Alden
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> Alan , does that race end at Victoria inner harbor? Thats only a
> 40 minute drive or a days sail for me .
> Paul ,
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Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:45:18 -0500
From: Charles Finn <charles at finn.ws>
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Subject: Re: [C38] heat exchanger
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Welcome Jon!
As you can see, replacing the heat exchanger has been a "hot" topic for
the Catalina 38 crowd! The original 2" exchanger was marginal at best,
with any obstruction leading to overheating. Mine has zebra mussel
shells obstructing the core. Apparently, they grow within the
exchanger, which means I will have to add this inspection to my ongoing
maintenance list. You have already removed your exchanger and I am
guessing you did so through the port sail locker, which is not fun to
say the least even if you have made the cut-out modification....
Installing it can be even less fun. BUT! it turns out there is an
easier way that works for even our larger crew (myself for example).
There are four hoses connected to the heat exchanger. Two carry engine
coolant, with one coming directly from the manifold and the other going
to your water heater. The other two carry seawater. Three of these
hose clamps can be accessed from the starboard side of the engine by
taking out the pilot berth cushion and access panel covering the fuel
tank. There is enough room to get your arm in and to see what you are
doing. If you want even more access, install an inspection port
($25-50), which is what I am doing. The fourth hose can be disconnected
on the forward, lower, port side of the engine, which can be easily
snaked in or out with the removal of the heat exchanger.
You will doubtlessly notice the larger exchanger will not fit in the old
mount on the motor. I hung mine from the engine ceiling using two pipe
hangers available at any home depot for $2-4. I can now remove, inspect
and remount the exchanger in about 1/2 hour. Can't do it by myself at
the fourth hose has to be caught by someone as it is snaked back up to
the front of the engine (my wife did this last time and despite
protesting loudly that she never signed up to work on the engine.. she
didn't even get a grease smudge)!
Note: I always double clamp hoses with good 314 stainless marine clamps
that have a hex head which allows for the use of a socket. This allows
me to tighten clamps at almost any location without having to see what I
am doing as the socket fits neatly on the clamp. As all my hose clamps
use the same socket size, I have a universal hose clamp tool readily at
hand in the toolbox.
Chuck Finn
Mighty Quinn #114
Great Lakes
Steve Smolinske wrote:
> Jon,
>
> Congrats and welcome you'll find this list is an invaluable resource.
I also replaced mine the cost was $330 as Bob mentioned the link to the
company in Victoria is
http://www.manifoldwarehouse.com/mes/mgr?brch=home that was for the
largest of three sizes that will work with our engines. The extra money
is well spent as we also run 20-30 degrees cooler and the engine sounds
so much better. There was quite a thread going last year on heat
exchangers you may want to surf the archive if you haven't already. My
project grew to include replacing all the hoses, the fresh and raw water
pumps too along with the thermostat for good measure. Tom T. pointed
out last year that our water pumps have internally lubricated bearings
and those pumps if original are 25 years old. That's why my job grew it
didn't make sense for me to pull everything else apart and not replace
something that was just lurking, just waiting for the most inopportune
time to break.
>
> Steve
> Peregrine #312
> Seattle
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> Hi,
> I am a proud new owner of a '79 Cat 38 "Kuu Haku". The engine is a
Universal 5424. Recently had some overheating issues when sailing back
from Maui to Oahu. Coolant was leaking somewhere, temp gauge reading
over 200 F. Replaced scaled seawater lines, removed the heat exchanger
(3" replacement, I'm guessing, as I think the 5424 originally came with
a 2" exchanger). It was visibly clogged and anode totally gone. So I
took it to a radiator shop to get boiled. They called and said there
were a bunch of leaks and needs to be replaced. My question is: Is it
possible to replace just the core, or should I just get a replacement
exchanger? Also, has anyone replaced a similar unit for less than the
~$400 at Torrensen. Are there any replacement brands to stay away from,
or others people have had good luck with?
>
> Also, as I have noticed a slow leak in the coolant, it seems safe to
say that FW/antifreeze is leaking into raw water, but should I assume
seawater has contaminated the FW side. I have drained and flushed all
the FW coolant, but if there is a chance seawater has gotten in the
lines should I do something else to treat the FW side to ensure all
seawater is flushed out.
>
> Any information would be really appreciated.
>
> Jon Whitney
> 1979 Cat 38 "Kuu Haku"
> #54
> Honolulu, Hawaii
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Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:56:17 -0800
From: "D. R. Strong" <drstrong at ucdavis.edu>
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Subject: [C38] two free sails left
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Dear C38ers:
I have two sails left. They are both 100% dacron Head Sails, vintage
about 1990, 1991. They are both in what sail resellers classify as good
to good+ shape. Neither has tears or more than trivial abrasion. Both at
dirty at the foot, where they drug over the lifelines in coming about.
They are from Discreet Charm's (nee /Chanteuse/) days in Southern
California, where big head sails are normal in the light winds. Neither
would be much use for cruising up here in SF Bay, where the wind does
blow. I had contemplated having them re cut down to 90% or so, but
really don't need more sails. They take up room in my garage and the
110% that we bought from Lee last year is perfect. Over 24 knots of wind
(which is about 60% of our sailing days), I have to reef for marital
purposes anyway.
Finally, we have had dry weekend, and I have been able to take the sails
out of the bags Failure to do this earlier led to the embarrassment of
confusing a #1 with a 130% genoa for one of the good C38ers.
The sails that I have left are:
1. an all purpose #1 (photos of which I have posted on
http://c38sails.blogspot.com/). This sail has luff tape for an old
fashioned foil, way too big for most furlers, as you can see on the
photos. * Note that a #1 is a big sail*, about a 155%. The foot is about
26' 8" (I was alone yesterday and unable to get a perfect measurement of
the foot). length).
2. a 130% genoa, which I didn't photograph. It is in roughly the same
shape as the A/P #1. This is a smaller sail than the #1, which one can
tell by attempting to heft the bags. This sail has no luff tape, it
has been removed .
I will UPS these sails to C38 people for the cost of the shipping.
regards, Don
--
Donald R. Strong
C38 Discreet Charm
Emery Cove, San Francisco Bay
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