[C38] Sails

D. R. Strong drstrong at ucdavis.edu
Thu Mar 11 10:59:32 EST 2010


Andre: I have just given the sails to a neighbor who just bought the C38 
in Stockton. Sorry.
Regards, Don

alden Andre wrote:
> Don Ill take those sails off your hands. Give me a call on my cell.
> Alden Andre (AKA Cpt. Bilgewater)
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> From: PAUL NOTTE <panotte at shaw.ca>
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> Alden , I havn't raced anything with a sail since I was 12 years old,
> I'm 62 now and the crew of the Impulse consists of  a wife who won't get
> on the boat if the sails are going to be raised and a 15 yr old who
> thinks the coolest thing ever is the inverter so he can play his x-box
> while under way.
>  I will however bring the boat down to add moral support.  
> Paul 
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> From: alden Andre <alden at clifforddevelopmentgroup.com>
> Date: Friday, March 5, 2010 9:03 am
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>> Paul yes the race does end in victoria harbor. You should bring 
>> your boat down with steve then we could have our own class. 
>> Alden 
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>> From: PAUL NOTTE <panotte at shaw.ca>
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>> Alan , does that race end at Victoria inner harbor? Thats only a 
>> 40 minute drive or a days sail for me .
>>   Paul ,
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> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:45:18 -0500
> From: Charles Finn <charles at finn.ws>
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> Subject: Re: [C38] heat exchanger
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> Welcome Jon!
> As you can see, replacing the heat exchanger has been a "hot" topic for 
> the Catalina 38 crowd!  The original 2" exchanger was marginal at best, 
> with any obstruction leading to overheating.  Mine has zebra mussel 
> shells obstructing the core.  Apparently, they grow within the 
> exchanger, which means I will have to add this inspection to my ongoing 
> maintenance list.  You have already removed your exchanger and I am 
> guessing you did so through the port sail locker, which is not fun to 
> say the least even if you have made the cut-out modification....  
> Installing it can be even less fun.  BUT! it turns out there is an 
> easier way that works for even our larger crew (myself for example).
>
> There are four hoses connected to the heat exchanger.  Two carry engine 
> coolant, with one coming directly from the manifold and the other going 
> to your water heater.  The other two carry seawater.  Three of these 
> hose clamps can be accessed from the starboard side of the engine by 
> taking out the pilot berth cushion and access panel covering the fuel 
> tank.  There is enough room to get your arm in and to see what you are 
> doing.  If you want even more access,  install an inspection port 
> ($25-50), which is what I am doing.  The fourth hose can be disconnected
>
> on the forward, lower, port side of the engine, which can be easily 
> snaked in or out with the removal of the heat exchanger.
> You will doubtlessly notice the larger exchanger will not fit in the old
>
> mount on the motor.  I hung mine from the engine ceiling using two pipe 
> hangers available at any home depot for $2-4.  I can now remove, inspect
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> and remount the exchanger in about 1/2 hour.  Can't do it by myself at 
> the fourth hose has to be caught by someone as it is snaked back up to 
> the front of the engine (my wife did this last time and despite 
> protesting loudly that she never signed up to work on the engine.. she 
> didn't even get a grease smudge)!
>
> Note:  I always double clamp hoses with good 314 stainless marine clamps
>
> that have a hex head which allows for the use of a socket.   This allows
>
> me to tighten clamps at almost any location without having to see what I
>
> am doing as the socket fits neatly on the clamp.  As all my hose clamps 
> use the same socket size, I have a universal hose clamp tool readily at 
> hand in the toolbox.
>
> Chuck Finn
> Mighty Quinn  #114
> Great Lakes
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> Steve Smolinske wrote:
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>> Jon, 
>>  
>> Congrats and welcome you'll find this list is an invaluable resource.
>>     
> I also replaced mine the cost was $330 as Bob mentioned the link to the
> company in Victoria is
> http://www.manifoldwarehouse.com/mes/mgr?brch=home  that was for the
> largest of three sizes that will work with our engines.  The extra money
> is well spent as we also run 20-30 degrees cooler and the engine sounds
> so much better.  There was quite a thread going last year on heat
> exchangers you may want to surf the archive if you haven't already.  My
> project grew to include replacing all the hoses, the fresh and raw water
> pumps too along with the thermostat for good measure.  Tom T. pointed
> out last year that our water pumps have internally lubricated bearings
> and those pumps if original are 25 years old.  That's why my job grew it
> didn't make sense for me to pull everything else apart and not replace
> something that was just lurking, just waiting for the most inopportune
> time to break.
>   
>>  
>> Steve
>> Peregrine #312
>> Seattle
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>> From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org on behalf of Jonathan Whitney
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>> Subject: [C38] heat exchanger
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>> Hi,
>> I am a proud new owner of a '79 Cat 38 "Kuu Haku".  The engine is a
>>     
> Universal 5424.  Recently had some overheating issues when sailing back
> from Maui to Oahu.  Coolant was leaking somewhere, temp gauge reading
> over 200 F.  Replaced scaled seawater lines, removed the heat exchanger
> (3" replacement, I'm guessing, as I think the 5424 originally came with
> a 2" exchanger).  It was visibly clogged and anode totally gone.  So I
> took it to a radiator shop to get boiled.  They called and said there
> were a bunch of leaks and needs to be replaced.  My question is:  Is it
> possible to replace just the core, or should I just get a replacement
> exchanger?  Also, has anyone replaced a similar unit for less than the
> ~$400 at Torrensen.  Are there any replacement brands to stay away from,
> or others people have had good luck with?  
>   
>>  
>> Also, as I have noticed a slow leak in the coolant, it seems safe to
>>     
> say that FW/antifreeze is leaking into raw water, but should I assume
> seawater has contaminated the FW side.  I have drained and flushed all
> the FW coolant, but if there is a chance seawater has gotten in the
> lines should I do something else to treat the FW side to ensure all
> seawater is flushed out.  
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>>  
>> Any information would be really appreciated.  
>>  
>> Jon Whitney
>> 1979 Cat 38 "Kuu Haku"
>> #54
>> Honolulu, Hawaii
>> = 
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> From: "D. R. Strong" <drstrong at ucdavis.edu>
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> Dear C38ers:
> I have two sails left. They are both 100% dacron Head Sails, vintage 
> about 1990, 1991. They are both in what sail resellers classify as good 
> to good+ shape. Neither has tears or more than trivial abrasion. Both at
>
> dirty at the foot, where they drug over the lifelines in coming about. 
> They are from Discreet Charm's (nee /Chanteuse/) days in Southern 
> California, where big head sails are normal in the light winds. Neither 
> would be much use for cruising up here in SF Bay, where the wind does 
> blow. I had contemplated having them re cut down to 90% or so, but 
> really don't need more sails.  They take up room in my garage and the 
> 110% that we bought from Lee last year is perfect. Over 24 knots of wind
>
> (which is about 60% of our sailing days), I have to reef for marital 
> purposes anyway.
>
> Finally, we have had dry weekend, and I have been able to take the sails
>
> out of the bags Failure to do this earlier led to the embarrassment of 
> confusing a #1 with a 130% genoa for one of the good C38ers. 
>
>
> The sails that I have left are:
> 1. an all purpose #1 (photos of which I have posted on 
> http://c38sails.blogspot.com/). This sail has luff tape for an old 
> fashioned foil, way too big for most furlers, as you can see on the 
> photos. * Note that a #1 is a big sail*, about a 155%. The foot is about
>
> 26' 8" (I was alone yesterday and unable to get a perfect measurement of
>
> the foot). length).
>
>
> 2. a 130% genoa, which I didn't photograph. It is in roughly the same 
> shape as the A/P #1.   This is a smaller sail than the #1, which one can
>
> tell by attempting to heft the bags.  This sail has no  luff tape, it 
> has been removed .
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> I will UPS these sails to C38 people for the cost of the shipping.
>
> regards, Don
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>
>   

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Donald R. Strong
Professor
Section of Evolution and Ecology
University of California Davis
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