[C38] How about a Burgee?
Peggy Droesch
saintpeg at earthlink.net
Tue Apr 27 02:05:22 EDT 2010
Charles,
I know you'll ultimately have to make up your own mind, but I like #3 with
the blue background & the red arrowhead. Fairly simple, & looks like it
would be easy to read at a distance.
Re: website enhancements, thank you Max for all the diagrams, & thank you
Charles for posting them! this is terrific!! Rory & I made contact with
Catalina trying to get some of these when we bought our boat but no dice, &
haven't had the time to try again. This will be a huge help!
Peggy
#231, Point Richmond, CA
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> 1. Re: How about a Burgee? (PAUL NOTTE)
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> 3. Re: [Fwd: ] (Steve Smolinske)
> 4. Re: How about a Burgee? (Les)
> 5. Re: How about a Burgee? (Joseph Launie)
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> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 21:19:32 -0700
> From: PAUL NOTTE <panotte at shaw.ca>
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> Subject: Re: [C38] How about a Burgee?
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> I GOTTA SAY THE 2 COLOR # 3 AND 5 BOTH LOOK GOOD
> pAUL
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> From: "Steve Smolinske" <SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com>
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> Subject: Re: [C38] How about a Burgee?
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> Charles, looking good, I agree with the three color options, how about
number 5 with the red arrows on the perimeter in blue? I think that with
UV the colors may fade rather quickly and with more white it makes the
other colors stand out IMHO. If you need someone to make them there is a
lady in Seattle that makes burgees and flags, she just made our battle flag
for us and it was very reasonable, she also makes lots of yachty flags for
the local chandleries.
>
> Steve
> #312 Peregrine
> Seattle
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> From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org on behalf of Charles Finn
> Sent: Mon 4/26/2010 8:32 PM
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> Subject: Re: [C38] How about a Burgee?
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> Ok,
> I have tried to portray the two suggestions so far. I took figure 3 and
> put blue where the white was (this is four colors). I also split the
> arrowhead into red and blue...
> This is really at my design limits! So, we have four in the running at
> this point:
>
> #3 Original
> #2 Original
> #3 Modified with Blue Background
> #3 Modified with Blue Arrowhead
>
> Any more ideas, input or whatever?
>
> Chuck Finn
> Vice Commodore
>
> On 4/26/2010 6:10 PM, D McC wrote:
> > I'll put in my 38 cents for #3 ... and how about 3 colors? split the
arrowhead into blue and red?
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> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Charles Finn<charles at finn.ws>
> > To: Catalina 38 Listserve<listserve at catalina38.org>
> > Sent: Mon, April 26, 2010 7:47:12 AM
> > Subject: [C38] How about a Burgee?
> >
> > Some of us have been "playing" with developing a C38 Association Burgee
for years. Indeed, Joe L. and Steve O. had one made a couple of years back
but it was shelved due to cost (Steve reports it was more than $50). I had
my graphic designer nephew develop some ideas at the same time, but that
too went on the shelf.
> >
> > As the newly minted Vice Commodore, I figured I might just want to do
something to earn the large salary that comes with this job... So, lets see
if we can come up with a Burgee!
> >
> > I propose a round of submissions by Association members that will
enhance the eight options (attached) or propose your own design!
> > I will then get some pricing (I want to keep the cost below $30)
> > We will then go through a round of voting to select our choice.
> > We then get to decide size and depending on the design, whether reading
the reverse side is a problem and what it would cost to correct
> > We will then accept orders from Association Members and will purchase
and deliver the Burgees (there are real discounts for large orders).
> >
> > Factors that affect cost:
> > 1. Size (most burgees measure around 12x18 inches)
> > 2. Number of colors used
> > 3. Material
> > 4. Sewing of edges
> > 5. Reverse reading (so you read it from both sides)
> >
> > How about it?
> >
> > Chuck Finn
> > Vice Commodore
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> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 21:53:30 -0700
> From: "Steve Smolinske" <SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com>
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> Joe,
>
> thanks for the pics, that is nice the way you have it set up with the
mainsheet. I will have to think about that too, I also like the numbers
on the traveler thats a good idea. Thanks.
>
> Steve
>
>
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> From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org on behalf of Joseph Launie
> Sent: Mon 4/26/2010 7:20 PM
> To: ssmolinske at rainerrubber.com; Catalina 38 Listserve
> Subject: [C38] [Fwd: ]
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> Steve,
>
> Here is our Harken electric winch with switches. Joe
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> From: Les <hlhowell at pacbell.net>
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> I rather like the #3 version...
>
> Regards,
> Les H
> On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 21:19 -0700, PAUL NOTTE wrote:
> > I GOTTA SAY THE 2 COLOR # 3 AND 5 BOTH LOOK GOOD
> > pAUL
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> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 22:14:13 -0700
> From: Joseph Launie <jlaunie at cox.net>
> To: Catalina 38 Listserve <listserve at catalina38.org>
> Subject: Re: [C38] How about a Burgee?
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> Charles,
> Let me correct some of the errors regarding the prior burgee. I
> developed it and spent several hundred dollars of my own money preparing
> a design. A major factor affecting cost is the number of burgees ordered
> at any one time. Since we were experimenting - we only ordered two and I
> think I suggested $50 to recoup some of my set up costs. The big cost is
> the original set-up by the burgee manufacturer. It is basic economics
> that the more burgees you can spread that fixed cost over, the cheaper
> the price. The major variables affecting price are: size, whether
> double-sided (to read from both sides you make 2 burgees and sew them
> togther), sun resistance of the pigments (huge amount of variablity in
> sun tolerence with the cheap ones fading quick,) quality of material
> and workmanship.
> We never could get any interest in purchasing the burgee we
> developed so it was dropped. Cost never came into it because we did not
> know what the cost would be but were told it would drop significantly
> for larger orders. If you want a burgee for under $30 I suggest you
> order 25 of them. I have absolutely no interest in getting into this
> loop again. Joe
>
> Charles Finn wrote:
> > Some of us have been "playing" with developing a C38 Association
> > Burgee for years. Indeed, Joe L. and Steve O. had one made a couple
> > of years back but it was shelved due to cost (Steve reports it was
> > more than $50). I had my graphic designer nephew develop some ideas
> > at the same time, but that too went on the shelf.
> >
> > As the newly minted Vice Commodore, I figured I might just want to do
> > something to earn the large salary that comes with this job... So,
> > lets see if we can come up with a Burgee!
> >
> > I propose a round of submissions by Association members that will
> > enhance the eight options (attached) or propose your own design!
> > I will then get some pricing (I want to keep the cost below $30)
> > We will then go through a round of voting to select our choice.
> > We then get to decide size and depending on the design, whether
> > reading the reverse side is a problem and what it would cost to correct
> > We will then accept orders from Association Members and will purchase
> > and deliver the Burgees (there are real discounts for large orders).
> >
> > Factors that affect cost:
> > 1. Size (most burgees measure around 12x18 inches)
> > 2. Number of colors used
> > 3. Material
> > 4. Sewing of edges
> > 5. Reverse reading (so you read it from both sides)
> >
> > How about it?
> >
> > Chuck Finn
> > Vice Commodore
> >
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