[C38] Rigging replacement

Mon Jun 7 08:59:16 EDT 2010

Max: My rigging is 3/8's, I don't have the original spec's, its possible someone replaced my rigging before I bought the boat but I dought it.

Dick
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Max Soto 
  To: Catalina 38 Listserve 
  Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 12:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [C38] Rigging replacement

  Hi Dick, Are you sure that your rigging is 3/8"???? The original rigging is 5/16", just like in your morgan. Pat, check the rigging specs on the web. When I replaced my rigging, I compared every wire with the specs and all matched perfectly, and yours should have the same mast configuration and specs.
  I used what rigging only in MA called the caibbean rig, which is a a wire with a swage upper fitting and a swageless Sta-lock fitting on the turnbuckle. I replaced everything five years ago, after finding cracks on the upper terminals  along the swage end and also some broken strands. Lucky for me that PO boat didn't move for about 10 years before I bought her.....Estancia is hull #198 1982, and still had the original rigging. 
  Hope this helps

  Max Soto
  C38 #198 ESTANCIA
  Puntarenas, Costa Rica

  2010/6/5 Dick Kilroy <dickkilroy at comcast.net>

    Steve: Bought Dashaway my Cat 38 # 193(1982) in 1999 in Ft Lauderdale, boat had spent most of her life in the Great Lakes. 3 years in storage in Lauderdale. Surveyor said rigging looked like new. I have had the boat in the Caribbean since 2000. In 2004 one of the lower shrouds started to unwind. Replaced all shrouds. In 2005 on our first sail the backstay adjuster hit me in the shoulder when the backstay failed. Thank God the rig stayed up, probably because of the new shrouds. The swaged fitting on the backstay had only 3 of the 19 wires holding it, all others were rusty, no way to tell by visual exam.
     Told Al Richardson to replace the headstay as well, he told me I didn't 'to need to because of the Norsemans I had put on in 99 to change to roller furling. I told him to replace anyway. In 05 I replaced all my rigging on my Morgan 38-2 after 27 years in New England as a result of this.  Richardson Rigging said in the Caribbean rigging should be replaced 5-8 years. Water is highly saline. Guess I'm due soon. I don't know your location but if it's in warm year round water I would replace. Better safe than sorry. The rigging on the cat 38 at 3/8 is over rigged, my Morgan is 5/16.

    Dick
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: S Orton 
      To: Cat 38 
      Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 12:15 PM
      Subject: [C38] Rigging replacement

      All,
      I have the mast off the boat and getting it painted.  Now the rigging.  The powers at be recommend the the rigging be replaced every 10 years and my 1985 is 25 years old!  In my opinion the 38 is way over rigged compared to other modern rigs, ie the J120.  The wire is very tough to look for failure points (cracks), because of the inner wire with in the outer.  So I replace all the wire, but how about the rest and where do you stop?  The 5/8" shear pins- you can lift the whole boat in single shear.  The bronze turnbuckles could be polished and the exterior inspected- a failure would probably originate in the root of the internal threads, which would be very tough to inspect.  What I'm asking has any body had a rigging failure on the 38 other than a collision and what failed??  Experience is the best indicator not some arbitrary rule.
      Any and all answers are appreciated,  Steve O    

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