[C38] Economics of boat ownership

Mon Aug 9 12:32:05 EDT 2010

Haven't been in the middle in a long time but I still enjoy tearing up
hundred dollars bill while standing in a cold shower on Flying Goose.

Bill

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Don Strong <drstrong at ucdavis.edu> wrote:

>  Tom & Bill: Economists call behavioral choices such as pleasure boat
> ownership "hedonistic," actions that supposedly maximize pleasure while
> incurring little pain or suffering.   After my haul out last week, I'm
> questioning the concept...
> Don
>
> On 8/9/10 9:05 AM, Tom T. wrote:
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> No problem Bill,
>
> As boat owners, we knew right away that sending that email about economics
> to this group was probably a mistake.
>
> If we had even a clue about economics, we probably wouldn't be boat owners!
>
> Tom Troncalli
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Bill Haynes <hayneswm at charter.net>
> *To: *Catalina 38 Listserve <listserve at catalina38.org>
> *Sent:* 8/9/2010 10:34:43 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [C38] Who Does our Economy Serve?
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>  Thank you for your understanding.  It won't happen again...............
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> Bill
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> *Sent:* Sunday, August 08, 2010 12:55 PM
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>  Thought it was probably a mistake, it happens to all of us from time to
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> *From:* listserve-bounces at catalina38.org [
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> *On Behalf Of *Bill Haynes
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 08, 2010 9:51 AM
> *To:* Catalina 38 Listserve
> *Subject:* Re: [C38] Who Does our Economy Serve?
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>  Oooops, sorry for this post.  It was meant for one of my retired AF
> buddies.
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> Bill
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> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Bill Haynes <hayneswm at charter.net>
> *To:* Catalina 38 Listserve <listserve at catalina38.org>
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 08, 2010 9:40 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [C38] Who Does our Economy Serve?
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>  Paul, Thom has stated the plight of the middleclass in this country so
> much better than I could.  Sure, you know some middleclass folks who are
> doing pretty well.  I do also.  However, taken as a whole, the middleclass
> is not doing so well.  Read this and then let me know what you would do
> about it.
>
> Bill
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>
>  Thom's blog
> *Who Does our Economy Serve?*
> *Ed Luce with The Financial Times' has documented the "crisis of
> middle-class America."* He notes the "median wage stagnation" that has hit
> most American families, and writes, "the annual incomes of the bottom 90 per
> cent of US families have been essentially flat since 1973....That means most
> Americans have been treading water for more than a generation." At the same
> time, the Financial Times notes, America's CEOs have seen their compensation
> go up over a hundredfold. The result is a level of inequality not seen in
> this country since 1929, and the conversion of the middle class of 1940 to
> 1980, into the terrified working poor of the post Reaganomics era, the vast
> majority of whom live paycheck to paycheck, with no significant savings, and
> only a job loss and a few weeks from being homeless and on the streets.
>
> *The new GDP report shows our economic growth slowed to a 2.4 percent rate
> * in the second quarter, too slow to put Americans back to work. Much more
> worrisome are details in this report pointing to a continued slowdown this
> year. According to a recent survey by the Employee Benefit Research
> Institute, workers are cashing in their retirement plans just to stay
> afloat. Their grim statistics show the percentage of American workers who
> have less than $10,000 in savings grew to 43 percent in 2010. Almost 25% of
> all workers have postponed their planned retirement in the past year. A
> CareerBuilder.com survey reports that 61 percent of workers are now living
> paycheck to paycheck, as compared to 43 percent in 2007. Meanwhile, Bankers
> at the big Wall Street banks wrapped up their best month in a year. This
> begs a question. Economic activity happens in America because government
> authorizes corporations and gives substantial benefits and limitations of
> liability to those few individuals who own most of corporate America. Thus
> the question: Is this economy our Government has created here to serve the
> wealthy people who own it, or did we bring it into being and do we support
> and maintain it so it can benefit average working people, and thus
> Democracy?
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> -Thom
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