[C38] Listserve Digest, Vol 7, Issue 369
jonbix at cox.net
jonbix at cox.net
Thu May 19 18:53:22 EDT 2011
How to I view the photos of the locker cut out? What's the trick?
Jon
OSPREY
Portsmouth, RI
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> 1. Re: Lockers and Batteries (Richard West)
> 2. Re: Lockers and Batteries (Richard West)
> 3. Re: Customized access openings from engine compartment on
> back (Joseph Launie)
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> Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 10:54:33 -0700
> From: Richard West <rw at idea-asylum.com>
> To: Larrypi at roadrunner.com, Catalina 38 Listserve
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> Subject: Re: [C38] Lockers and Batteries
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> Hi Larry,
>
> We have the raw water filter mounted vertically on the plywood
> partition
> behind the forward water tank. We can get to the valves through the
> little
> door in the V berth.
>
> Rich
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Larry Malmberg
> <Larrypi at roadrunner.com>wrote:
>
>> Hummmm, I guess we could take the water maker intake from the galley
>> and
>> the discharge through the thru hull. A little extra plumbing but
>> maybe
>> worth it. Where did you install the raw water filter for it Rich???
>>
>>
>> Larry
>> Team Hassle
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> From: Richard West <rw at idea-asylum.com>
> To: Larrypi at roadrunner.com, Catalina 38 Listserve
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> Subject: Re: [C38] Lockers and Batteries
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> Hey Larry,
>
> Did I miss it... what kind of watermaker are you installing? Did you
> find a
> good deal on it? Any suggestions as to where to buy?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rich
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>
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> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Larry Malmberg
> <Larrypi at roadrunner.com>wrote:
>
>> Hummmm, I guess we could take the water maker intake from the galley
>> and
>> the discharge through the thru hull. A little extra plumbing but
>> maybe
>> worth it. Where did you install the raw water filter for it Rich???
>>
>>
>> Larry
>> Team Hassle
>>
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> Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 12:23:20 -0700
> From: Joseph Launie <jlaunie at cox.net>
> To: listserve at catalina38.org
> Subject: Re: [C38] Customized access openings from engine compartment
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> Marci,
> We cut out huge areas for our electric winches. We used a
> cordless Makita jig saw after shutting off the shore power. I think a
> circular saw would be too hard to control. Joe Launie/MACAVITY
>
>
> On 5/19/2011 9:00 AM, Marci Brown wrote:
>>
>> I'd love to compare our boat's access areas to everyone else's -
>> before we start cutting. I'm going to take some photos and post them
>> next week. What's the best power tool to use to cut through the
>> fiberglass when creating new access panel areas? A cordless circular
>> saw set for a shallow depth?
>>
>> *Marci J. Brown*
>>
>> PO Box 520549, Winthrop, MA 02152 USA
>>
>> *Ph:* 757-502-7422 | *Email:* mb at seafor.us <mailto:mb at seafor.us>
>>
>> *From:* Max Soto [mailto:maxsoto at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 19, 2011 11:12 AM
>> *To:* Larrypi at roadrunner.com; Catalina 38 Listserve
>> *Subject:* Re: [C38] Mysterious stuffing box behavior
>>
>> Larry,
>>
>> I have exactly the same locker as Hassle.
>>
>> Max
>>
>> 2011/5/19 Larry Malmberg <Larrypi at roadrunner.com
>> <mailto:Larrypi at roadrunner.com>>
>>
>> I'm confused too Max. Our port locker in the cockpit (sail locker?)
>> is open all the way to the hull except for a step where the start
>> battery is located, the step has a shelf for storage where we keep
>> extra oil and coolant, there is a large access to the engine
>> compartment there as well, kind of T shaped.
>>
>>
>> Larry Malmberg
>>
>> Team Hassle
>>
>>
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>> *From:* listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
>> <mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org>
>> [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
>> <mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org>] *On Behalf Of *Max Soto
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 19, 2011 7:52 AM
>> *To:* tdtron at earthlink.net <mailto:tdtron at earthlink.net>; Catalina 38
>> Listserve
>>
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [C38] Mysterious stuffing box behavior
>>
>> I don't know if it is just me, but this locker is totally different
>> than mine... I remember seeing this pics years ago, but still today ,
>> I can't figure it out, and my only explanation is that the
>> modification was very big and I didn't get that, or that (this is
>> getting common!) there are two different kind of lockers. Mine goes
>> all the way to the hull, and has a liner with no anti skid pattern..
>>
>> How about other boats??????
>>
>> I need to install a generator behind the engine, so the room I can
>> make for myself, the better!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Max
>>
>> 2011/6/18 tdtron at earthlink.net <mailto:tdtron at earthlink.net>
>> <tdtron at earthlink.net <mailto:tdtron at earthlink.net>>
>>
>> Dan,
>>
>> While mentioning the sail locker cutout, you reminded me that I came
>> across a couple of old photos of my locker cutout which I have
>> attached. The holes on the engine side of the locker were left over
>> from the previous owner's hot water heater which I moved to the
>> engine aft of the transmission. That location was not possible
>> before the sail locker modification.
>>
>> The cutout is supported by angle aluminum bolted with countersunk #10
>> stainless bolts and nylock nuts. The four screw heads in the first
>> photo are holding my pressure water pump up side down between the
>> hull and sail locker bottom. We found that location to be a very
>> quiet place for the pump and after the sail locker cutout
>> modification, that location also became easy to service, another
>> previously wasted unaccessible area.
>>
>> On the sail locker cutout, I did add a vertical brace between the
>> forward inside corner of the cutout and the hull. I bedded a piece
>> of pressure treated wood to the hull and made a support of aluminum
>> angle connected to the perimeter aluminum angle which made the floor
>> of the sail locker very stiff and strong.
>>
>> Of all of the modifications I made to my 38, I think this was the
>> most practical and best.
>>
>> Tom Troncalli
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> *From:*
>>
>> *To: *Catalina 38 Listserve <mailto:listserve at catalina38.org>
>>
>> *Sent:* 5/18/2011 12:40:01 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [C38] Mysterious stuffing box behavior
>>
>> Marci, We bought our boat in Rhode Island and last year did the
>> opposite trip you are doing. We brought it to the Chesapeake Bay.
>> We Had a situation that may be close to yours.
>>
>> We had 5 total crew and was motor sailing hard in Long Island
>> Sound to try to get to the East River to catch the tide right. We
>> heard water splashing around and the quarter berth was getting
>> wet
>> (we have an opening there to get to the back of the engine, not
>> sure all Catalina's have it). There was a lot of water under the
>> engine and the spinning shaft was splashing it around. When the
>> shaft wasn't spinning there was no splashing.
>>
>> Before starting our adventure I got a lot of information from the
>> C38 website, most importantly the leaking stuffing box on the
>> rudder post. Below the front of the engine there is a drain hole
>> that allows water to drain from under the engine to the bilge.
>> Ours was clogged up and allowed the build up of water under the
>> engine and the shaft to splash it around. When running hard and
>> even sailing fast the rudder post will let in a lot of water
>> because the stern is squatted down.
>>
>> Check under the front of the engine and make sure that hole is
>> clear. I think you will find that to be your problem as well as a
>> rudder post leak.
>>
>> I still have to fix mine. I'm going to cut out the sail locker
>> bottom as suggested on the C38 website to gain access to the
>> rudder post.
>>
>> Dan #108
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Max Soto" <maxsoto at gmail.com <mailto:maxsoto at gmail.com>>
>> To: "Catalina 38 Listserve" <listserve at catalina38.org
>> <mailto:listserve at catalina38.org>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 11:35:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: [C38] Mysterious stuffing box behavior
>>
>> Marci,
>>
>> I guess that the shaft was spinning while sailing with the
>> transmission in neutral. I'll check the packing gland and also
>> check for movement of the stuffing box while running with the
>> engine, it should denote problems like the ones you just
>> mentioned...
>>
>> Hope this helps..
>>
>> Max Soto
>> C38 #198 ESTANCIA
>>
>> Puntarenas, Costa Rica
>>
>> 2011/5/18 Marci Brown <mb at seafor.us <mailto:mb at seafor.us>>
>>
>> A troubling stuffing box situation began last week (and
>> continues): We ran the engine reasonably hard for about 4 hours
>> when doing the NYC East River trek to Long Island Sound. I was in
>> the galley when Keith raised the sails and cut the engine
>> (leaving
>> transmission in neutral). Immediately I heard water pouring into
>> the boat from the stuffing box area. I shouted for Keith to throw
>> the transmission into reverse. No more water! Whew! Water quickly
>> exited the boat via bilge pump - with the exception of 10 gallons
>> sitting under the engine that I had to pump out by hand.
>> Diagnostic guesstimate #1: New zincs on the prop shaft causing
>> wobble that is stressing the 2-year old flax packing gland...
>> right? The cutlass bearing is fine. Other thoughts: Folding prop
>> has inherent balance issues, engine/transmission/prop shaft
>> alignment fine tuning necessary, packing glands wear out quickly
>> under stress?? Would anyone like to tackle this one?
>>
>> *Marci J. Brown*
>>
>> PO Box 520549, Winthrop, MA 02152 USA
>>
>> *Ph:* 757-515-3151 | *Email:* mb at seafor.us <mailto:mb at seafor.us>
>>
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