[C38] Listserve Digest, Vol 7, Issue 840

jonbix at cox.net jonbix at cox.net
Sun Nov 13 08:18:05 EST 2011


Thanks for all your replies.  Any photos you can share with me would be great.  I plan to have one made and installed while the mast is out of the boat this winter.
Jon
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>    1. Re: prop shaft (Steve Smolinske)
>    2. Mast deck collar (jonbix at cox.net)
>    3. Re: Mast deck collar (David Epstein)
>    4. Re: Mast deck collar (Joseph Launie)
>    5. Re: Mast deck collar (dmills3 at comcast.net)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 09:52:25 -0800
> From: "Steve Smolinske" <SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com>
> To: "Catalina 38 Listserve" <listserve at catalina38.org>
> Subject: Re: [C38] prop shaft
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> Dang that will  sure add some drag to the boat.  
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>  
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> [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Max Soto
> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:04 AM
> To: Catalina 38 Listserve
> Subject: Re: [C38] prop shaft
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>  
> 
> Hi Bob, just for comparison purposes, here is a pic from Estancia. The
> prop on the shaft is a Michigan Sailer  14x14, and the one I'm holding
> right next to it is a Martec 17x10.  With the 17" prop I will have only
> 1/2" clearance.
> 
> Those of you with Kiwis, do you remember how much hull clearance is left
> with the 16" Kiwi installed??
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> Max
> 
>  
> 
> 2011/11/7 Bob Gouley <r.gouley at sympatico.ca>
> 
>      Gentlemen and ladies, if any of you have your prop shaft removed,
> for a cutlass bearing, coupler, pack less seal or any other reason, I
> would greatly appreciate if you would measure your prop shaft and send
> the info to the E-mail below.  Please tell me if your shaft is an
> original silicon/bronze shaft.  My shaft is 47 inches long. Kiwi props
> tells me that the recommended kiwi prop is 15.5 X 22 degrees and
> requires one half inch of hull clearance. I can not fit a prop of this
> size.  Kiwi tells me that 4 cat 38 have this prop.  I wonder if my prop
> was shortened.  I use a 13 X 13 chris craft prop that has a bushing in
> it so it will fit the taper on my shaft. This 13 inch prop has one inch
> of hull clearance.  Any info would be greatly appreciated .
> 
>  
> 
> bob gouley
> 
> Zephyr hull # 142
> 
> St Joseph Island
> 
> ontario canada
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> r.gouley at sympatico.ca 
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> Max Soto
> C38 #198 ESTANCIA
> Puntarenas, Costa Rica
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 19:33:57 -0500
> From: <jonbix at cox.net>
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> Subject: [C38] Mast deck collar
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> I would like to install a mast deck collar, SS, with eyes welded onto it that I can then attach turning blocks so I can run my halyards, reefing lines and sail controls back to the cockpit.  I was wondering if anyone can shed some light on this.  Where can I find one made for the Catalina 38?  What about the stress on the deck from the blocks pulling up?  Is there a need for a strut down below to transfer the load back onto the mast?  Any photos you may have showing your deck collar would be helpful as well.
> 
> Thanks
> Jonathan Bixby
> OSPREY
> Portsmouth, RI
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 16:51:15 -0800
> From: David Epstein <davidepstein at earthlink.net>
> To: Catalina 38 Listserve <listserve at catalina38.org>
> Subject: Re: [C38] Mast deck collar
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> Jonathan,
> 
> On SuperStar the halyards lead through blocks attached to the deck 
> collar to rope clutches and then to the winches.   Sidney, the 
> original owner, did not want winches on the mast or boom, preferring 
> two shared winches on the deck.
> 
> There are immense forces on the halyards, especially when the mast 
> pumps when powering through chop.   Yes, you will need a strut below 
> to keep from pulling the deck off the boat (perhaps a little over 
> dramatized, but you get the picture).  Ours is a turnbuckle 
> connecting a bolt through the collar to the mast itself.
> 
> I will try to round up a few photos and send them to you later.
> 
> David Epstein
> SuperStar #122
> Marina del Rey
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 04:33 PM 11/9/2011, you wrote:
> >I would like to install a mast deck collar, SS, with eyes welded 
> >onto it that I can then attach turning blocks so I can run my 
> >halyards, reefing lines and sail controls back to the cockpit.  I 
> >was wondering if anyone can shed some light on this.  Where can I 
> >find one made for the Catalina 38?  What about the stress on the 
> >deck from the blocks pulling up?  Is there a need for a strut down 
> >below to transfer the load back onto the mast?  Any photos you may 
> >have showing your deck collar would be helpful as well.
> >
> >Thanks
> >Jonathan Bixby
> >OSPREY
> >Portsmouth, RI
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> Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 17:41:09 -0800
> From: Joseph Launie <jlaunie at cox.net>
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> Subject: Re: [C38] Mast deck collar
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> Jonathan,
>      When I commissioned Maacavity in 1991 I had a custom collar made 
> with 10 or 12 ATTACHMENT POINTS FOR THE HALYARD BLOCKS.
> dOWN BELOW WE HAVE A TURNBUCKLE GOING FROM THE DECK TO THE MAST.   I am 
> currently laid up waiting to have my failed artificial hip replaced but 
> I will try to get crew to the boat to send you pix. Joe Launie/Macavity
> 
> 
> On 11/9/2011 4:33 PM, jonbix at cox.net wrote:
> > I would like to install a mast deck collar, SS, with eyes welded onto it that I can then attach turning blocks so I can run my halyards, reefing lines and sail controls back to the cockpit.  I was wondering if anyone can shed some light on this.  Where can I find one made for the Catalina 38?  What about the stress on the deck from the blocks pulling up?  Is there a need for a strut down below to transfer the load back onto the mast?  Any photos you may have showing your deck collar would be helpful as well.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Jonathan Bixby
> > OSPREY
> > Portsmouth, RI
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> From: dmills3 at comcast.net
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> Subject: Re: [C38] Mast deck collar
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> Joseph and David, can you please post the pictures on the listservre. I'm thinking of doing the same thing on #108. 
> Thanks, Dan Miller, Chesapeake Bay 
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> From: "Joseph Launie" <jlaunie at cox.net> 
> To: listserve at catalina38.org 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 8:41:09 PM 
> Subject: Re: [C38] Mast deck collar 
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> Jonathan, 
> ??? When I commissioned Maacavity in 1991 I had a custom collar made with 10 or 12 ATTACHMENT POINTS FOR THE HALYARD BLOCKS. 
> dOWN BELOW WE HAVE A TURNBUCKLE GOING FROM THE DECK TO THE MAST.?? I am currently laid up waiting to have my failed artificial hip replaced but I will try to get crew to the boat to send you pix. Joe Launie/Macavity 
> 
> 
> On 11/9/2011 4:33 PM, jonbix at cox.net wrote: 
> 
> I would like to install a mast deck collar, SS, with eyes welded onto it that I can then attach turning blocks so I can run my halyards, reefing lines and sail controls back to the cockpit.  I was wondering if anyone can shed some light on this.  Where can I find one made for the Catalina 38?  What about the stress on the deck from the blocks pulling up?  Is there a need for a strut down below to transfer the load back onto the mast?  Any photos you may have showing your deck collar would be helpful as well.
> 
> Thanks
> Jonathan Bixby
> OSPREY
> Portsmouth, RI
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