[C38] hinged mold and Frank Butler
Joseph Launie
jlaunie at cox.net
Thu May 5 22:30:10 EDT 2011
Steve,
One reason that Catalina was able to sell the C-38 at such a
reasonable price for what was really a custom boat was that Frank got
the expensive hinged hull mold from Johnnie at such a good price. Joe
Launie/Macavity
On 5/5/2011 2:03 PM, S Orton wrote:
> We need to expand on this story and Joe's article is a very good
> start- it would make a great article for the MAINSHEET!
> Cheers, Steve O
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 06:06:18 -0700
> From: drstrong at ucdavis.edu
> To: listserve at catalina38.org
> Subject: Re: [C38] hinged mold and Frank Butler
>
> Joe: Another great story from the master. Thanks! Don
>
> On 5/5/11 1:28 AM, Joseph Launie wrote:
>
> Steve,
> I have a vague recollection of seeing the mold at Johnnie
> Schumacher's Yankee Yachts operation when the first Yankee 38's
> were being built. It was upside down when I saw it and the hinge
> was somewhere on top. I crewed on Independance, a Blue hulled
> Yankee 38. It was a one tonner. Ted Tuner bought hull number 3. We
> went to the first One Ton World's in San Diego and got hammered.
> We were last and Ted Turner next to last. At the trophy dinner,
> Ted came over and told us how happy he was we were there -
> otherwise, he would have been last. (the boat was way too heavy)
> John Linsky, my skipper, was a good friend of Johnnie Schumacher.
> When Yankee Yachts shut down, Johnnie sold the mold to Frank
> Butler. It was going to be called the Sparkman Stevens 38 but
> Frank and Olin Stevens got into it over changes Frank made to the
> hull, deck and mast. Frank lengthened the rudder (and increased
> it in size again later) and changed the aft end of the keel. He
> changed the flush deck of the Yankee to what we have now and did
> his magic with the interior. He made the mast 2 feet higher - his
> standard change. But thru it all, with minor modifications, he
> used that huge, heavy, expensive hinged mold. With the tumble-home
> that was the only way to do it. You can only get so many cupcakes
> out of one mold. When it came time to replace it, Frank stopped
> making the 38. Joe Launie/Macavity
>
> On 5/4/2011 10:49 PM, S Orton wrote:
>
> Joe, Did you actually see the clam shell mold? If so where
> was the hinge located? I would think it would be
> somewhere below the stub keel. This discussion makes me feel
> a lot better about the structural aspect of the Cat38- it is
> a one piece hull, not a hull made in halves and butted
> together with epoxy. This also confirms why I could never
> find in the interior a parting line which would result from a
> 2 piece hull. But a crack that Steve S found on his boat is
> not good in my opinion. What caused the cracks? What is the
> surrounding material- bondo? I guess I would of repaired
> it with glass cloth and epoxy or vinylester down to sound hull
> material and fair out about 6" all the way around. When our
> boat was peeled I don't remember seeing any filler material in
> that area, so what Steve S saw is very concerning to me. But
> this is an ex aero space structural engineer talking and I
> must remember these boats have existed for 20 plus years and I
> have never heard of a hull coming apart.
> Cheers, Steve O (Santa Susanna, #304)
> > Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 20:34:16 -0700
> > From: jlaunie at cox.net <mailto:jlaunie at cox.net>
> > To: listserve at catalina38.org <mailto:listserve at catalina38.org>
> > Subject: Re: [C38] (no subject)
> >
> > actually, it was a very expensive one piece mold with hinges
> in the
> > middle. The cost of the mold is the reason they stopped
> making the boat.
> > Joe Launie, Macavity
> >
> > On 5/4/2011 1:13 PM, Dick Kilroy wrote:
> > > With the reverse transom the boat had to have been made in
> half's. One
> > > peace would be very hard to get out of the mold.
> > >
> > > Dick
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max Soto"
> <maxsoto at gmail.com> <mailto:maxsoto at gmail.com>
> > > To: "Catalina 38 Listserve" <listserve at catalina38.org>
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> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 10:49 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [C38] (no subject)
> > >
> > >
> > >> Weren't our hulls made in two halves????? Or were the
> molds????
> > >> While working out some blisters a while ago I noticed
> somo voids in
> > >> the center line of the hull, right were the crack
> runs.... Just
> > >> filled it with redin, and leaved it alone.
> > >> I noticed that the hull has what looks like the balsa
> wood strip
> > >> running down on the center of a surfboard ( but of
> course, it wasn't
> > >> balsa)... That's were the crack in this pic is located...
> > >>
> > >> Max
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPod
> > >>
> > >> On May 3, 2011, at 23:28, "Steve Smolinske"
> > >> <SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com>
> <mailto:SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Center line crack
> > >>>
> > >>> <photo.JPG>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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> > >>> Steve Smolinske
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from my iPhone
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