[C38] How to approach an argument with a sailor

[Anders Finn]

Don,

awesome =)

Anders

On 09/13/2011 09:40 AM, Don Strong wrote:
> Anders:  You might tell him that by your reckoning, they aren't 
> getting as much out of that boat as would a more competent crew. They 
> should be averaging 10-15 knots. Ask him what's wrong.
> Don
>
> On 9/13/11 9:31 AM, Anders Finn wrote:
>> Advice seeking time.
>>
>> So, I've got a friend who sails on a VERY fast boat. A very winning 
>> boat. Probably one of the fastest in San Francisco. It's crewed by a 
>> bunch of amazing sailors including some Cup guys. However, she's not 
>> really a sailor and I've had to explain things like what a knot is vs 
>> mph. The boat is a Santa Cruz 37 rates in a 27PHRF. Now, she claims 
>> and has some text messages from other crew saying they've hit 26knots 
>> in the bay. I call BS. I pull out all my math on hull speed, plain 
>> force calculations on what it would take to make that boat go into 
>> full plane. I've tried showing what PHRF means and that a 27 means 
>> they only average 1/2 knot faster than the J/105's. I've tried 
>> pulling out their race times and showing they're only averaging about 
>> 6-7knots during races. . This does not matter.
>>
>>  Probably most of us have seen exceedences in hull speed for our 
>> boats going down waves and whatnot. However, that's not the claim. 
>> The claim is they REGULARLY go 16-20 knots in bay races. This is 2x 
>> or more their hull speed. .
>>
>> Thoughts on how to explain this or anyone have experience with a SC37?
>>
>> Anders
>>
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