[C38] How to approach an argument with a sailor

Larry Malmberg Larrypi at roadrunner.com
Tue Sep 13 12:48:09 EDT 2011


Well Anders, as you probably know I’m a PI and retired Sheriff's Detective
so I’m used to dealing in facts.  I would suggest taking the course length
of the next race and their time, calculate their speed and present it to
her.  However, one lesson I have learned in life, you are never and I mean
NEVER going to win an argument with a woman. 






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-----Original Message-----
From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
[mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Anders Finn
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:38 AM
To: listserve at catalina38.org
Subject: Re: [C38] How to approach an argument with a sailor

Yeah, tried that one too. It's always GPS which she also has never
physically seen. Oh, I've also confirmed that she's not talking about going
with the tide as, with a GPS, you could possibly see 6+knots from tide
around here.

Anders

On 09/13/2011 09:35 AM, Larry Malmberg wrote:
> I guess the source of the data would be important, is it from a GPS, 
> knot meter or ????
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> Best regards,
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> Larry Malmberg
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> 7231 Boulder Avenue Suite 507
> Highland, CA 92346 PI 15211
> Telephone  909-208-1847
> FAX           909-991-7568
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> E Mail  Larrypi at roadrunner.com
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> Life is short, Break the rules, Forgive quickly, Kiss slowly, Love 
> truly, Laugh uncontrollably, And never regret anything that made you
smile..
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> "The American Indians found out what happens when  you don't control 
> immigration"
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>
> "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving 
> safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in 
> broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly 
> proclaiming; WOW-- What a Ride!"
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Anders Finn
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:31 AM
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> Subject: [C38] How to approach an argument with a sailor
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> Advice seeking time.
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> So, I've got a friend who sails on a VERY fast boat. A very winning boat.
> Probably one of the fastest in San Francisco. It's crewed by a bunch 
> of amazing sailors including some Cup guys. However, she's not really 
> a sailor and I've had to explain things like what a knot is vs mph. 
> The boat is a Santa Cruz 37 rates in a 27PHRF. Now, she claims and has 
> some text messages from other crew saying they've hit 26knots in the 
> bay. I call BS. I pull out all my math on hull speed, plain force 
> calculations on what it would take to make that boat go into full plane.
> I've tried showing what PHRF means and that a 27 means they only 
> average
> 1/2 knot faster than the J/105's. I've tried pulling out their race 
> times and showing they're only averaging about 6-7knots during races. .
> This does not matter.
>
>    Probably most of us have seen exceedences in hull speed for our 
> boats going down waves and whatnot. However, that's not the claim. The 
> claim is they REGULARLY go 16-20 knots in bay races. This is 2x or 
> more their hull speed. .
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> Thoughts on how to explain this or anyone have experience with a SC37?
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> Anders
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