[C38] autopilot

Joseph Launie jlaunie at cox.net
Sat Jul 7 22:33:08 EDT 2012 

I had a wheel auto pilot and removed it because it added too much drag 
to the steering wheel killing any feel you might have
On 7/7/2012 7:24 PM, Max Soto wrote:
> Hi Don, do you have a pic that shows the below deck drive unit and how 
> is it attached??
> Regards, max
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On Jul 6, 2012, at 13:29, Don Strong <drstrong at ucdavis.edu 
> <mailto:drstrong at ucdavis.edu>> wrote:
>
>> Don has an Alpha. Its electronics and motor have worked flawlessly 
>> for 15 years, 10 years during my ownership years. This is a heavy 
>> duty, below deck machine that steers the boat extremely well to 
>> weather and a bit less well while reaching and running.  The 
>> mechanics, which are part and parcel of the unique installation on 
>> Discreet Charm (and on all aftermarket installs) have failed and 
>> required my maintenance 4 times. Three times bolts backed out. I 
>> retightened and loctighted these bolts and have had no repeat 
>> failures. The fourth failure occurred recently when the heavy grease 
>> lubrication on the engaging mechanism congealed and prevented the 
>> finger from inserting into the quadrant. I removed the old grease, 
>> regreased with marine grade and had it back working flawlessly in two 
>> afternoons. The big problem with a below deck autopilot on a C38 is 
>> the same problem with everything in that tiny space. Were I a larger 
>> person I could not have repaired the autopilot. A larger person won't 
>> fit down there.
>> Don
>> On 7/6/12 11:22 AM, Max Soto wrote:
>>> Larry,  what kind of Autohelm do you have, wheelpilot, or under deck 
>>> piston???
>>> Max
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>
>>> On Jul 6, 2012, at 10:00, "Larry Malmberg" <Larrypi at roadrunner.com 
>>> <mailto:Larrypi at roadrunner.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Right on Chuck, we would not have touched anything on Hassle absent 
>>>> the unfortunate fire in 2010.  Given the circumstances of the fire, 
>>>> purchase back at salvage we upgraded almost all of Hassle's systems 
>>>> and are still fine tuning them.  On another note, our instruments 
>>>> were changed from Raymarine to Nexus and of course they have 
>>>> different languages, our auto helm is still Raymarine and I would 
>>>> like to get the auto helm integrated to our system. Anyone have 
>>>> experience converting Sea Talk Raymarine's proprietary language to 
>>>> NEMA?  Any advice would be appreciated.  I would like to be able to 
>>>> plot a route on our Garmin Chart Plotter and have the auto helm 
>>>> follow the route.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Larry Malmberg
>>>>
>>>> 7231 Boulder Avenue Suite 507
>>>> Highland, CA 92346 PI 15211
>>>> Telephone  909-208-1847
>>>> FAX           909-991-7568
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] *On Behalf Of *Charles
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 06, 2012 8:30 AM
>>>> *To:* Catalina 38 Listserve
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [C38] up-grading electrical system
>>>>
>>>> Hmmm....
>>>> This sounds like a lot of the "sage" advice I get from other 
>>>> sailors from time to time.  Some of it is great!  And others....  
>>>> well, we all have to sound like experts!  After all, how can you be 
>>>> a Captain and not be an expert?
>>>>
>>>> And if you alternator by some crazy circumstance actually "fell 
>>>> off," the bolt in your block would not fall out (it is screwed in 
>>>> tight holding your alternator).  And!  you would surely notice all 
>>>> the racket of your alternator bouncing around in the engine 
>>>> compartment way before you ran out of engine oil!
>>>>
>>>> While I was in San Francisco with Anders, I had a discussion with a 
>>>> fellow at hospital who is buying a 38 foot bayliner power boat.  
>>>> Two engines and 13,000 pounds.  What was his experience afloat?  
>>>> NONE!  Had he even owned another boat?  NO!  But, rest assured that 
>>>> the guy selling it has promised to tell him everything he needs to 
>>>> know to run this thing!  He is a very nice person and I am sure he 
>>>> will be an expert Captain once someone shows him where the ignition 
>>>> switch is!
>>>>
>>>> That is why I listen to Steve S.,  Tom T. and the rest of you guys 
>>>> who have time on task and the grace to share it!
>>>>
>>>> Chuck Finn
>>>> Mighty Quinn  #114
>>>> Great Lakes
>>>>
>>>> On 7/6/2012 11:18 AM, Steve Smolinske wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The engine wouldn't  loose  all of its  oil, you  would realize 
>>>>> first  that your alternator was off,  there is a small weep hole 
>>>>> in the block that the bolt on the bracket seals.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:*listserve-bounces at catalina38.org 
>>>>> <mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org> 
>>>>> [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] *On Behalf Of 
>>>>> *1derful at comcast.net <mailto:1derful at comcast.net>
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 05, 2012 8:38 PM
>>>>> *To:* Larrypi at roadrunner.com <mailto:Larrypi at roadrunner.com>; 
>>>>> Catalina 38 Listserve
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [C38] up-grading electrical system
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have any problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> My engine starts after 10 seconds of glow plug.
>>>>>
>>>>> He is a "fellow sailor" (not selling anything) whom I rafter up 
>>>>> with this weekend.  He just made a number of suggestions to 
>>>>> improve boat.  He said there is a web site for Catalina that tells 
>>>>> what upgrades are recommend.
>>>>>
>>>>> He mentioned something about a post-market support for the 
>>>>> alternator which is supposed to prevent it from falling off which 
>>>>> "would cause engine to lose all its oil."
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe in "If its not broken....don't fix it."
>>>>>
>>>>> I have gotten into trouble fixing things that work
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your response.
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *"Larry Malmberg" <Larrypi at roadrunner.com 
>>>>> <mailto:Larrypi at roadrunner.com>>
>>>>> *To: *"Catalina 38 Listserve" <listserve at catalina38.org 
>>>>> <mailto:listserve at catalina38.org>>
>>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, July 5, 2012 6:41:34 PM
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [C38] up-grading electrical system
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrick, I can only suppose that he will do the work and bill you 
>>>>> for it?  If you don't have charging problems, if everything seems 
>>>>> to be working OK my opinion is don't mess with it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Larry Malmberg
>>>>> Team Hassle
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:*listserve-bounces at catalina38.org 
>>>>> <mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org> 
>>>>> [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] 
>>>>> <mailto:[mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org]> *On Behalf Of 
>>>>> *1derful at comcast.net <mailto:1derful at comcast.net>
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 05, 2012 5:51 PM
>>>>> *To:* Catalina
>>>>> *Subject:* [C38] up-grading electrical system
>>>>>
>>>>> I met a fellow this weekend who recommended upgrading my 
>>>>> "elcetrical harness"? to one with more amps.  He said the 
>>>>> batteries would charge better.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that worth while?
>>>>>
>>>>> My boat spends most of its life tied into shore power.
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>> University of California, Davis 95616
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