[C38] Listserve Digest, Vol 9, Issue 133
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Main sheet. I have harken airblocks and a anderson winch and can pull my main sheet in tight with one wrap around the winch in 30+ kts. If you woud like to see pics email me alden642 at comcast.net
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1. Re: main sheet question (Bruce S. Liese)
2. Re: Halyard question (Bruce S. Liese)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 22:57:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Bruce S. Liese" <bruce at kansascitysailing.com>
To: Catalina 38 Listserve <listserve at catalina38.org>
Subject: Re: [C38] main sheet question
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Hi Don,
It sounds like your mainsheet may be rigged wrong.?
You should already have the "primitive" C38 mainsheet arrangement with 4:1 purchase.? There should be two blocks on the boom with the mainsheet extending over to both sides of the companionway (with a block on one side and an eyestrap on the other).? The line should run up and down for a total of four times, giving you the 4:1 purchase, with a block on the traveler. ? The bitter end of the mainsheet should, in fact, terminate at the winch on the starboard side.? (Forgive me if this isn't precisely right.? My boat is 1,500 miles away so I can't go look at it for some time.)?
I don't particularly like the way the main sheet is rigged.? I find that it often binds up, especially when I'm sailing deeper than a beam reach.? (I've practically emptied cans of McLube over the years, trying to make the binding go away.)? There are lots of ways to make it simpler but these are likely a violation of our class rules.? Using fiddle blocks or double (side-by-side) blocks would probably clean things up, but then the mainsheet couldn't run on the sides of the companionway because of the angles.? Actually I would most like to have a two-speed mainsheet.? Harken makes a great one.
Here's the link to our association's "About the C38" (specs) page.? There are several sets of pictures of the deck rigging, though they're not terribly clear:
http://www.catalina38.org/?page_id=75/
I hope I haven't steered you wrong.? I'll be eager to hear what others think of the C38 mainsheet setup, especially whether they have had the binding problem or made modifications.? And of course I'd also like to know if the modifications are violations of class rules.
Thanks!
Warm regards,
Bruce
Bruce S. Liese
Kansas City Sailing
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From: Donald Strong <drstrong at ucdavis.edu>
To: Catalina 38 Listserve <listserve at catalina38.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2013 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [C38] main sheet question
Bruce: I have a standard main sheet rig that goes from the boom and
traveler to a winch on the top of the house, on my C38. Watching your
Harken video I saw a couple of purchases that had more mechanical
advantage. It would be cool to haul the main sheet by hand rather than
by the winch. Could I go to 4x or something with a 4x block on the
traveler and another couple of blocks on the boom? Advice appreciated.
Thanks, Don
On 6/2/13 3:08 PM, Bruce Liese wrote:
> Wow, thanks for recommending our shop Larry!
>
> I just finished writing my post to the group and then saw that you recommended our shop.? Again, we do all we can for the C38 group.? We've loved our C38s and are proud to be a part of such a knowledgeable group that's so willing to share.
>
> Besides contacting me by cell (913-579-5039), C38 members are welcome to contact me by e-mail (bruce at kansascitysailing.com), or through our website (www.kansascitysailing.com).? The "KUMC" e-mail address is my day job!
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Bruce
>
> Bruce S. Liese, Ph.D., A.B.P.P.
> Professor of Family Medicine and Psychiatry
> University of Kansas Medical Center
> 3901 Rainbow Blvd.? Mailstop 4010
> Kansas City, Kansas 66160
> bliese at kumc.edu
> 913-588-1912
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org [listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] on behalf of Larry Malmberg [larrypi at roadrunner.com]
> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 1:57 PM
> To: 'Catalina 38 Listserve'
> Subject: Re: [C38] Halyard question
>
> Contact Bruce Lise at Kansas City Sailing for the best prices on halyards
> etc.? He probably has all the measurements for main, jib and spin's as he
> has a Catalina 38.? Bruce at KansasCitySailing.com
> http://www.kansascitysailing.com
>
>
> Larry Malmberg
> 7231 Boulder Avenue #507
> Highland, CA 92346
> Telephone:? 909-208-1847
> Fascimiline: 909-991-7568
> E Mail:? larrypi at roadrunner.com
>
> Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in
> a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
> thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming; "WOW-- What a
> Ride!"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
> [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Brett
> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 8:20 AM
> To: Catalina 38's
> Subject: [C38] Halyard question
>
> To save me time from measuring and looking things up does anyone know of the
> top of there head what length and size the following halyards are
>
> Spinnaker
> Jib
> Main (still on the mast)
>
> Also suggestions on place to order them from?
>
> We had a samurai take down on the spinnaker during Friday night race and had
> to cut the better of all my halyards and now I figure I should just bit the
> bullet and replace them all. It's time.
>
> We still got 4th place.
>
> Thanks
>
> Brett
> Jazz #313
> Annapolis, MD
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 23:29:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Bruce S. Liese" <bruce at kansascitysailing.com>
To: Phil <eyriepg at comcast.net>, Catalina 38 Listserve
<listserve at catalina38.org>
Subject: Re: [C38] Halyard question
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Hi Phil,
I like Sta-Set X for its tensile strength and less creep/stretch than the regular Sta-Set, but it's not my favorite when compared to some of the more high-tech options.? New England Ropes offers great alternatives to traditional polyester rope for halyards and other applications.? If you haven't seen their catalog it's really informative.? You can find it on our Kansas City Sailing website by clicking on this link.? Take a look at the last two sections of the catalog entitled: "Line Stretch in the Real World" and "Line Selection Guide."? They're very interesting.
If you don't want to break the bank by paying $7+ per foot on something like V-100, I would seriously consider New England Ropes "Endura Braid."? Its core is Dyneema and its cover is polyester.? It lists for around $2.89 per foot for (11 mm diameter) - obviously much less than $7 per foot. Details about Endura Braid and all of the New England Ropes products are in their catalog.
Here's a fun video about rope, worth watching: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyDHBNix6hA.
Warm regards,
Bruce
Bruce S. Liese
Kansas City Sailing
shop: 785-841-SAIL (7245)
cell: 913-579-5039
fax: 785-832-1090?
bruce at KansasCitySailing.com
www.KansasCitySailing.com
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From: Phil <eyriepg at comcast.net>
To: Bruce S. Liese <bruce at kansascitysailing.com>; Catalina 38 Listserve <listserve at catalina38.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2013 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [C38] Halyard question
I've used 7/16" staset X for halyards for 12 years. ?I am thinking about going lighter stronger. ?Any suggestions.?
Phil Gay C38 049 Que Linda Everett WA
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 2, 2013, at 2:57 PM, "Bruce S. Liese" <bruce at kansascitysailing.com> wrote:
Steve, that'sthe way I think about measuring halyards.? I'll also mention that I prefer New England Ropes 7/16" Sta-Set halyards.
>
>
>
>To Brett and the rest of the group, I've owned, sailed, and raced two different Catalina 38s over the past 15 years (Freudian Sloop and Crusader) out of San Diego. ? And I've been a member of this listserve for almost the same amount of time.? I rarely contribute but I read almost every post with great interest and gratitude.
>
>
>You asked for a good place to purchase halyards/sailing supplies.? I own a Catalina dealership, sail loft, and rigging shop in Lawrence, Kansas(of all places!).? I've always offered members of the Catalina 38 fleet deep discounts on parts, foul weather gear, rigging, deck hardware, safety equipment, and additional sailing supplies.? When possible I've been able to beat most others' prices.? I make it a point not to pester the group with selfish marketing efforts, but especially when it comes to rigging and deck hardware, we can usually beat other retailers and we ship for free.I'm only offering this information because you asked for a place to purchase halyards.
>
>
>Please feel free to take a look at our site,www.KansasCitySailing.com.? We also have an online store (on e-bay and a separate one) but it's best to contact me directly to get the best prices.? If you wish to contact me, my cell phone number is 913-579-5039.
>
>
>I hope this helps!
>
>
>Warm regards,
>
>
>Bruce
>
>?
>Bruce S. Liese
>Kansas City Sailing
>shop: 785-841-SAIL (7245)
>cell: 913-579-5039
>fax: 785-832-1090?
>bruce at KansasCitySailing.com
>www.KansasCitySailing.com
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Steve Smolinske <SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com>
>To: Catalina 38 Listserve <listserve at catalina38.org>
>Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2013 3:57 PM
>Subject: Re: [C38] Halyard question
>
>
>Brett it really depends where your winches
are, (spin and jib halyard
>winches for me are mid ship on deck) I always figured for the mast its
>50 from the deck to the top, So I start with 100 feet then add on the
>length that allows you enough room for a spinnaker take down anywhere on
>the boat, (foredeck or cockpit) then long enough tail for leading to the
>cockpit if you want and for trimming off for repairs. For me that makes
>the spin halyards about 130 and for the main I usually go about 110
>(winch? on the mast)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
>[mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Brett
>Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 8:20 AM
>To: Catalina 38's
>Subject: [C38] Halyard question
>
>To save me time
from measuring and looking things up does anyone know of
>the top of there head what length and size the following halyards are
>
>Spinnaker
>Jib
>Main (still on the mast)
>
>Also suggestions on place to order them from?
>
>We had a samurai take down on the spinnaker during Friday night race and
>had to cut the better of all my halyards and now I figure I should just
>bit the bullet and replace them all. It's time.
>
>We still got 4th place.
>
>Thanks
>
>Brett
>Jazz #313
>Annapolis, MD
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