[C38] Solid Vang / Main Halyard Question

Wed Jan 2 22:21:38 EST 2013

Max,

When Sid originally ordered SuperStar, he 
specified two winches and five rope clutches on 
the deck (instead of on the mast).   Based on the 
upward forces that would be imposed on the deck 
by the upward tension of the halyards, a 
turnbuckle was added to connect the mast itself 
to the mast collar/deck.  This prevented the deck from lifting up.

I attached a photo showing the strut assembly on SuperStar.

David Epstein
Former owner of SuperStar, #122, Marina del Rey

At 06:35 PM 1/2/2013, you wrote:
>Max,
>We had that original on Macavity in 1991 as 
>well. It was developed by Sid Blender on Super 
>Star. Sid sailed out of Marina del Rey. Joe/Macavity
>On 1/2/2013 2:11 PM, Max soto wrote:
>>
>>Mark, when the halyard is tight, there will be 
>>a lot of tension in the mast collar block, and 
>>it will tend to pull the deck upwards... That's 
>>why the turnbuckle needs to be installed from 
>>the deck, to the mast... If you don't, you will 
>>have constant leaks through the mast collar 
>>seal, and of course, cracks around the collar 
>>will start to develop.... The turnbuckle, 
>>u-bolt and pad eye is 3/8. I copied everything 
>>from a 1984 C38 that came with all these as original equipment...
>>Doug at Garhauer was the one that helped me with the mast collar plates...
>>Regards,
>>
>>Max Soto A.
>>C38 #198 Estancia
>>+506-8312-1367
>>Alajuela, Costa Rica
>>
>>On Jan 2, 2013, at 3:43 PM, "Mark O'Dell" 
>><mailto:mixedbusinesscontact at gmail.com><mixedbusinesscontact at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Max I'm confused about the extra turn buckle you installed inside
>>>under the mast. What's that for?
>>>
>>>— M
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Max Soto 
>>><mailto:maxsoto at gmail.com><maxsoto at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Mark and Steve,
>>>>I just posted some pics about the risers and the mast collar blocks on my
>>>>blog. Check it out..
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Max
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>2013/1/1 Steve Smolinske 
>>>><mailto:SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com><SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Max,
>>>>>
>>>>>I checked out your blog it looks like you have a curved traveler track?
>>>>>Where did you get the risers?
>>>>>
>>>>>Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: 
>>>>><mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org>listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
>>>>>[mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Max soto
>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 9:01 PM
>>>>>To: Catalina 38 Listserve
>>>>>Subject: Re: [C38] Solid Vang / Main Halyard Question
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Mark, I have the winch and clutches mounted inside the dodger. I
>>>>>installed a Lewmar 30 and a spinlok clutch. Space is tight, but
>>>>>everything works ok. I'm only able to use a 8" winch handle for  a full
>>>>>revolution.
>>>>>The spinlok clutch levers opens to the front. Lewmar clutch levers opens
>>>>>to the back of it, which gives it more room to move it forward against
>>>>>the dodger, but they also have a reputation for chewing lines....
>>>>>I have some pics of the installation on my blog
>>>>><http://www.svestancia.blogspot.com>www.svestancia.blogspot.com 
>>>>>I also have a Garhauer vang, and I love it..
>>>>>Talk to Mark, or Doug. Remember to tell them that is for a C38. They
>>>>>will send it with the brackets custom made for our mast and boom.
>>>>>Hope this helps!
>>>>>
>>>>>Max Soto A.
>>>>>+506-8312-1367
>>>>>Alajuela, Costa Rica
>>>>>
>>>>>On Dec 31, 2012, at 5:04 AM, "Mark O'Dell"
>>>>><mailto:mixedbusinesscontact at gmail.com><mixedbusinesscontact at gmail.com> 
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanx for the input everyone. Sounds like the Garhauer vang  is the
>>>>>>vang of choice. Good to know.
>>>>>>Y blog
>>>>>>As far as the re-route of the main halyard goes, it looks like I'd
>>>>>>have a bit of work to do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Seems like the best way would be to install a winch on the portside
>>>>>>cabin top and reroute the main sheet to it. Freeing the starb side
>>>>>>winch for the halyard.
>>>>>>But...I have a dodger which severely limits my area in which to mount
>>>>>>a chock forward of the halyard winch... it would have to be outside
>>>>>>and forward of the the dodger. Bummer. Back to the drawing board.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanx for the input.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mark O
>>>>>>Momentous #230
>>>>>>Baltimore
>>>>>>
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>>>>--
>>>>Max Soto
>>>>C38 #198 ESTANCIA
>>>>Puntarenas, Costa Rica
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