[C38] Another Toe Rail question

[Larry Malmberg]

We use old used fire hose for our chaffing on the dock lines, works pretty
darn good too.



Best regards,

Larry Team Hassle

Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in
a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in roadside, thoroughly
used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming; "WOW-- What a Ride!"	 

-----Original Message-----
From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
[mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of PAUL NOTTE
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 8:00 AM
To: Catalina 38 Listserve
Subject: Re: [C38] Another Toe Rail question

    I mounted two 8 inch cleats just aft of the factory one, which , to me
has been a pain in the butt because I anchor a lot.I thread my tie up lines
through a piece of hose slightly larger than the size of my tie up lines and
let the hose chafe on the toe rail. So far they have lasted two years with
little sign of wear.

Paul
Impulse 328

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray Torok" <torok13731 at gmail.com>
To: "Catalina 38 Listserve" <listserve at catalina38.org>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 9:59:47 PM
Subject: Re: [C38] Another Toe Rail question



I was looking at 9" four-bolt cleats (that's the size of the single bow
cleat that came with the boat), but 8" probably would work. Should be
interesting to see what others think. I've been using carabiners to attach
spring lines to the rail, but having two bow cleats would be really useful,
and would also make room for a bow roller for an anchor. 


Ray 
THIRA #37 



On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Max soto < maxsoto at gmail.com > wrote: 


I was also thinking about installing these cleats. Are Schaefer 8" four bolt
aluminum cleats too much?? Also, I was thinking about a cleat amidships, but
not sure if I should just get a cleat for the genoa tracks.... What Tom did
sounds like a good option if chocks are required... Should be easy to cut
the toe rail... If a real chock is required, I'll cut the toe rail, and will
look for a chock with bolts 4" c/c. 
Regards, 

Max Soto A. 
+506-8312-1367 
Alajuela, Costa Rica 



On Feb 22, 2013, at 1:35 PM, les < hlhowell at pacbell.net > wrote: 

> As all of you know I sold my boat, now Knee Deep, and she is on her way 
> to the east coast and up for sale. 
> 
> I had thought of this, and I don't think it is a bad idea. Ont thing I 
> thought of was using starboard to make a platform for the cleat. It is 
> dense, doesn't rust or rot and should provide a solid platform for the 
> the cleat. If this platform were to extend a bit over the edge, it 
> could be rounded with a router and would provide a chafe guard with 
> pretty much a slick surface which should lessen the chafing. I don't 
> know if anyone has done this before or not, but asking on some cruising 
> websites might get some additional information. 
> 
> However, at the same time, Cleats work best when the line of pull is 
> roughly in line with the cleat. I think looking at the website of the 
> cleat you wish to use would be helpful. This is why the big boats and 
> ships use cleats inboard with chocks for the fairlead. This ensures 
> that the cleat, bits or bollock have the pull at the right angle. For a 
> potential anchor line, having a fair lead with little chafe is pretty 
> important. 
> 
> Dockmasters don't worry about it. They choose the slip size and double 
> the size of the cleat or other line gear and just let the owners deal 
> with the chafe at that end. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Les H 
> 
> On Thu, 2013-02-21 at 18:34 -0800, Ray Torok wrote: 
>> I'm thinking about finding a way to mount two bow cleats on the deck 
>> just behind the pulpit. 
>> 
>> 
>> Has anyone looked at cutting gaps in the toe rail and mounting bow 
>> cleats in the gap? The idea would be to put them close enough to the 
>> rail so that chocks are not needed (like they do on new boats), and 
>> leaving the bottom part of the toe rail in place, so that lines going 
>> to the cleats rub on it rather than the fiberglass edge of the boat. 
>> 
>> 
>> I gotta believe someone out there has already figured this out (or 
>> knows why it's a bad idea). 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks, 
>> 
>> 
>> Ray 
>> THIRA #37 
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