[C38] Something to check

Mon May 20 23:19:11 EDT 2013

Steve S,

The way I read your first sentence it sounds like one doesn't have to
replace the dyneema every two years just the lashings.  What are the
lashings made of?

Phil Gay

C38 049 Que Linda

Everett, WA

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[mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Steve Smolinske
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 3:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [C38] Something to check

The rules states the dyneema lashings need to be replaced every two years,
Sherri was all in favor for the no gate option after I explained to her  how
we almost lost Randy 3 times on our  way down  the coast from the life line
gates popping open, even after they were taped and zip tied.   

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[mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of S Orton
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 9:33 AM
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Subject: Re: [C38] Something to check

I  have read Dyneema has a UV problem and must be replaced alot more
frequent than SS.  

Phil,  You know Steve S and his bride are a generation behind us- they can
still clear hurdles.

Steve O

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Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 18:18:32 -0700
Subject: Re: [C38] Something to check

I have mentioned this before to the group but it bears repeating.  I noticed
a broken strand in the top lifeline wire at the stud just in front of the
gate.  While I was removing the cotter ring (split ring) to remove the gate
connection, the stud fell off in my hand.  The strands were so weak that a
touch was all it took to break through all of them.  It was the top lifeline
and I shiver to think about what would have happened if it had broken when
someone was leaning on it.

One of my buddies urged me to replace them with Dyneema but my conservative
nature led me to go with the uncoated stainless. 

I'm curious about how Steve sold his wife on gateless lifelines.  ;-)

Phil Gay

C38 049 Que Linda

Everett, WA

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[mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Steve Smolinske
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 5:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [C38] Something to check

The ORR prohibit coated lifelines for just that reason they hide corrosion,
You can soak your coated lifelines in MEK overnight and the coating will
fall right off.   We just replaced ours with Dyneema and took out the gates.

Steve

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[mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Launie
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 4:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [C38] Something to check

Charles,
    just replaced our lifelines. Our new ones are uncoated. It seems the
coating can hide corrosion. Joe

On 5/17/2013 6:05 AM, Charles Finn wrote:

I have been really busy getting the boat ready this year as it is major
maintenance time!  I have replaced the main bulkhead, reworked the rudder
post including welding the quadrant, installed a rudder position indicator,
cleaned out the zebra mussels from the heat exchanger.....   And am
currently moving all my stantions out to the rail!   Don't worry Steve!  I
will be writing some of these up for the magazine! 
Plus, I have been busy retiring!  Thought that would be simple, but it seems
everything I think will be simple these days.... 

Now to the disturbing discovery.  When I removed the stantions and started
cutting off the bases in preparation for the move to the rail,  I of course
was looking at the weld area where the strap connects from the base to the
stantion.  I had observed last fall when taking the boat out that at least
one or two looked like they were cracked.   Turns out that SIX of the eight
stantions were outright cracked or showed deformation at the weld!  When I
cut the base off, I was able to easily remove the weld with my hand.... 
I suggest folks carefully examine this weld area as the stantions are made
of light tubing and welds of course weaken it even further.  My new bases do
not require welds as they have a long neck. 
I am pretty handy with a mig welder and was able to repair these stantions
for this year, but clearly my fall project will be replacing those stantions
and lifelines! 

By the way, turns out moving the stantions was not as big a project as I
thought and not nearly as expensive!   Sailrite has stantion bases at half
the cost of anyone else. 

Regards, 
Chuck Finn 
Mighty Quinn  #114 
Great Lakes 

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