[C38] Wheel, key
Don Strong
drstrong at ucdavis.edu
Sat Dec 14 10:02:45 EST 2013
We remove the wheel regularly in order to allow access to the stern end
of the cockpit when we are at the dock. The key on the wheel shaft has
a tendency to fall out. I fixed it into its keyway with a dab of 5200.
The greased shaft allows things to go smoothly and quickly.
Don
On 12/14/13 5:35 AM, Max soto wrote:
> Good point Tom, I also had to use a puller when removed it for the
> first time....
> Regards,
>
> Max Soto A.
> +506-8312-1367
> Alajuela, Costa Rica
>
> On Dec 14, 2013, at 6:44 AM, "Tom T." <tdtron at earthlink.net
> <mailto:tdtron at earthlink.net>> wrote:
>
>> Hello Group,
>>
>> I wanted to add one thing to this thread on steering problems.
>>
>> On the Catalina 38 with wheel steering, the only way to use the
>> emergency tiller is to either raise the wheel mount so the emergency
>> tiller will clear it or temporarily take the wheel off. I chose the
>> second option.
>>
>> When I tried to remove my wheel, it was seized to the shaft . I used
>> a gear puller to get the wheel of the first time and it took a lot of
>> pull from years of exposure in the Florida salt air.
>>
>> After the wheel was off, I wire brushed and cleaned the shaft and
>> then coated the shaft and threads with waterproof trailer bearing
>> grease. After greasing, the nut and wheel could be removed very easily.
>>
>> We sometimes removed the wheel when at anchor to more easily get
>> around the deck like when using the stern ladder. When the wheel was
>> off, we just bungee corded it to the Bimini frame on either side
>> which greatly increased the cockpit space in seconds.
>>
>> The reason I mention greasing the wheel mount is if your wheel has
>> never been removed before, it will probably be stuck to the shaft as
>> mine was. This greasing procedure has to be done BEFORE you need the
>> emergency tiller or you may not be able to get the wheel off in an
>> emergency making that f#$%^&* little tiller useless.
>>
>> Tom Troncalli
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/14/2013 3:54 AM, Steve Smolinske wrote:
>>>
>>> We did the same fix to Peregrine, we used ¼ inch stainless steel
>>> plate and screwed and epoxied it in place over the wood stop.
>>>
>>> *From:*Listserve [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Tom T.
>>> *Sent:* Friday, December 13, 2013 12:45 PM
>>> *To:* Catalina 38 Listserve
>>> *Subject:* Re: [C38] The loss of Hull #280
>>>
>>> Hello Greg and group,
>>>
>>> I don't know what happened to Craig's steering but one of the most
>>> common problems on the Catalina 38's is when the steering quadrant
>>> hits the wood stop below the cockpit and the wood fails from age
>>> and/or rot causing the quadrant to travel too far allowing the cable
>>> to come off the pulley groove resulting in total loss of steerage.
>>>
>>> This happened to #95 late one night fighting rough, rainy weather
>>> with 50 mph gusts and breaking seas in the usually calm Tampa Bay.
>>> Weather in Florida can go from calm to survival conditions in a
>>> matter of minutes. The natives are used to it but on boats it can
>>> get really exciting.
>>>
>>> I was able to get to the quadrant via the stern compartment to free
>>> the loose cable so we could then steer with the emergency steering
>>> tiller to get us back to our port several miles away. Even though
>>> it was in protected Tampa Bay, it was still a very scary situation
>>> until we got things under control. If anyone needs to use their
>>> emergency tiller, you may want to reef down or you will exhaust
>>> yourself trying to muscle that #$%^ little stick.
>>>
>>> After this event, I replaced the wood tiller stop with one made from
>>> aluminum so it won't ever fail again causing steering failure. The
>>> stop goes abeam where the quadrant will strike it to limit the
>>> steering travel. It has been many years ago that I made the
>>> modification so I can't remember the details other than #95 is safe
>>> from this inevitable event because the wood was replaced with
>>> aluminum. I don't think the original wood was even pressure treated
>>> so it was a disaster waiting for a time to happen and on boats that
>>> usually means at the worst possible time
>>>
>>> I'm still anxious to hear what happened to Craig's steering but I
>>> wanted you to know about this modification to #95. Craig is an
>>> accomplished sailor and he is also an airplane pilot. I'm glad his
>>> event was in a boat instead of an airplane or it could have been
>>> much worse. Losing steering over the Atlantic in a small plane
>>> doesn't sound like fun.
>>>
>>> Craig has been a great contributor here for many years and we are
>>> glad he made it back.
>>> .
>>> Tom Troncalli
>>> Recovering ex-38 owner
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/13/2013 7:44 AM, William Knowles wrote:
>>>
>>> Craig when you feel up to it, could you give some details on the
>>> steering problems. Anything we should be looking at?
>>>
>>> Very sorry for your loose.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Greg S. Hart
>>> <ghart at follysbestrentals.com
>>> <mailto:ghart at follysbestrentals.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Craig,
>>>
>>> Sorry to hear about the loss of your boat, but glad to hear
>>> everything precious made it off.
>>>
>>> Greg Hart
>>>
>>> Folly's Best #95
>>>
>>> *From:*Craig Sailor6147 [mailto:sailor6147 at hotmail.com
>>> <mailto:sailor6147 at hotmail.com>]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 12, 2013 10:57 PM
>>> *To:* Catalina 38 Listserve
>>> *Subject:* [C38] The loss of Hull #280
>>>
>>> I'm sorry to report that we lost "Wings" in weather 400 km west
>>> of Bermuda on our way to the BVI's. We lost steerage and after
>>> bouncing in 20-30ft seas for 3 days, the Coast Guard picked us
>>> up and flew us back to Hampton Va. The boat was abandoned and if
>>> it didn't sink, it will either be salvaged or destroyed by the
>>> navy. It was a great boat and I'll miss her after 15 years of
>>> sailing her through The Great Lakes, East Coast, The Keys and
>>> The Bahamas.
>>>
>>> Craig Steinkraus
>>>
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