[C38] The powerful 5424

Steven Ribble steve.ribble at gmail.com
Sat Aug 6 15:36:05 EDT 2016


That's a blow, Chuck, glad you're okay!

Thanks for that explanation, Steve. I always seem to lean something on the
listserv!

And Steve, sorry to put you on the spot, being retired as you are, but do
we need to pay dues for the year? Who is treasurer these days? ( Not
volunteering, just want the group around if I ever get back in the water!
:) )

Fair winds and smooth seas,
Steve

Steven Ribble
Tittravate, #64
207 852-0971

On Aug 6, 2016 2:39 PM, "littlebreeze" <littlebreeze at comcast.net> wrote:

> Steve, nicely put.  When we get back to home I will be checking the rpm
> with hand held and comparing with the tach.
>
> Thanks Steve and Steve
>
>
>
> Loyality above all else, except honor.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: S Orton <ssorton at hotmail.com>
> Date: 8/6/16 11:22 (GMT-08:00)
> To: Cat 38 <listserve at catalina38.org>
> Subject: Re: [C38] The powerful 5424
>
> Wow,  Charles that doesn't sound like much fun!  On the subject of a new
> engine- I don't think a 50 hp engine would make much difference in the face
> of a 50+ kt wind pressure.  As you know (as my old mind remembers) as an
> engineer, the pressure increases by a factor as the square of the wind
> velocity- that was a tremendous force on your boat.
>
> On the original subject of the 5424 engine-  we just returned from a 10
> day family trip to the the San Juan Isl. (Puget Sound).  We put 160 hrs. on
> our 5424 (1985 model). We presently have 1650 hrs on our engine.  With
> moderate wind chop we cruise at about 5.6 kts. at  indicated 2500 rpm.  I
> can take our engine up to a max of about 3200 rpm, which I would use only
> as a burst of power (10 seconds or less).  You have to remember the engine
> rpm is only a function of your alternator rpm.  Therefore your engine revs
> vary directly to the size of your alternator pulley diameter.  A long story
> short- it is difficult to compare boat to boat engine revs.  The only way
> to really to check your engine revs is to get a direct hand held reading,
> as Steve S suggested, off the crank shaft and use this number to calibrate
> your gauge reading coming from your alternator.  My only problem with our
> engine is we leak a very small amount of engine oil the first time of, say
> 4 hrs of continuous cruise rpm, into the bilge after months of non use.
> After the first day of our 10 day cruise, we had no more leakage.  This
> tells me there is some gasket that needs re-torquing or replacing.
> Cheers, Steve O
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 14:24:57 -0400
> From: Charles at finn.ws
> To: SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com; listserve at catalina38.org
> Subject: Re: [C38] The powerful 5424
>
> Mighty Quinn just went through an intense storm with 55+ knots of wind
> rain hale on a Lee shore.  Delta anchor dragged all over and even at full
> power I could not hold the nose into the wind.
> Lots of damage, it was just short of catastrophic as I hung on for almost
> an hour.
> This is not the first time the 5424 has left me exposed, but if I can make
> it through till fall it will be the last!
> I have already switched anchors to a rocna Vulcan which is very impressive
> and I will report more as I put it through various holding grounds.
> I will be going with a new motor as well and am thinking of of the Volo 30
> horse.
>
> I would love to hear your thoughts.
>
> Chuck Finn
> Mighty Quinn  #114
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Steve Smolinske <SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com>
> Date: 8/5/16 1:19 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Catalina 38 Listserve <listserve at catalina38.org>
> Subject: Re: [C38] The powerful 5424
>
> What Max said makes sense it is a 2800 max rpm engine, under no load, and
> if you are now getting 2500 max under load, youre probably good, (I cruise
> about 2200).   Are you noticing any problems? Does it still push you
> through the water at the same speed?
>
>
>
> *From:* Listserve [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] *On Behalf Of
> *littlebreeze
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 04, 2016 9:32 PM
> *To:* Catalina 38 Listserve
> *Subject:* Re: [C38] The powerful 5424
>
>
>
> Thanks Steve.  I have one of those but for some reason i havent tried it.
> So your suggestion is right on point.  But lets say its accurate, any other
> suggestions?
>
>
>
> Kerry
>
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>
> Loyality above all else, except honor.
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: Steve Smolinske <SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com>
>
> Date: 8/4/16 21:21 (GMT-08:00)
>
> To: D McC <cat38skip at yahoo.com>, Catalina 38 Listserve <
> listserve at catalina38.org>
>
> Subject: Re: [C38] The powerful 5424
>
>
>
> Before tearing into it check the calibration of your rpm gauge against the
> engine Rpms you can pick up a unit at freight harbor that is easy to use
> and inexpensive.  Mine currently reads all over the place. So I go by sound
> and feel.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 4, 2016, at 8:56 PM, D McC <cat38skip at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Kerry,
> > We had a similar problem with reduced RPMs with a Yanmar on our previous
> boat and it was caused by a restriction in the exhaust system.
> > Our problem was caused by not running the engine at temperature long
> enough to prevent carbon buildup in the exhaust.
> > I imagine You run Little Breeze at temperature often enough but a
> restriction may be something to check on.
> >
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> sailing.
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> > --------------------------------------------
> > On Thu, 8/4/16, littlebreeze <littlebreeze at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > Subject: [C38] The powerful 5424
> > To: "Catalina 38 Listserve" <listserve at catalina38.org>
> > Date: Thursday, August 4, 2016, 8:15 PM
> >
> > Good
> > evening ladies and gentlemen.  When i first bought me
> > Catalina 38 about 14 years ago, I brought her up the coast
> > of Caifornia from San Diego to San Francisco.  Because
> > of time constraints we motored most of the way up the coast.
> >  At that time I was able to run the engine at 3300 rpm,
> > all day long.  Now with the same engine, same prop,
> > same bottom, same temp, I'm only able to get to 2500
> > rpm.  Any ideas?
> >
> >
> >  Loyality
> > above all else, except honor.
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