[C38] The Catalina Smile

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I imagine that if the smile were purely cosmetic, I wouldn't be concerned.  But, one of the consequences in my case is that I get sea water leaking into the bilge.  I know this because it leaks back out when I haul the boat, and it makes bottom painting a mess.  The real problem lies in having somewhat stagnant, oxygen depleted water around the stainless keel bolt.  This is the only circumstance I know of where stainless steel really corrodes.  Is the seeping around the keel stub a singular problem or have others with the smile noticed this?

Phil Gay
C38 049 Que Linda
Everett, WA

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From: "idea asylum" <rw at idea-asylum.com> 

> Just FYI... My boat is an '89 and it too has the smile. As far as I can 
> tell, it doesn't have the wood piece at the front of the keel. I've 
> tightened the keel bolts several times although I think there are two bolts 
> at the front of the keel that I can't get to. I've repaired the smile 
> several times just to have it come back. I've always been very careful to 
> block the keel correctly when hauling. 
> 
> Rich 
> Legacy, #360 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org 
> [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Charles 
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 9:02 AM 
> To: Catalina 38 Listserve 
> Subject: [C38] The Catalina Smile 
> 
> Catalina says the infamous "smile" many of us have discovered on our boats 
> is due to improper positioning on our cradles when the boat is out of the 
> water. I have fixed (by grinding, filling, gelcoating and 
> painting) my smile three times before yearly spring launching.... only to 
> have it be there when I haul the boat in the fall. This does not rule out 
> what Catalina says as it could be the keel stabilizing after a winter of 
> compression. I do know it is not due to loose keel bolts as I have 
> routinely gone through the rather difficult process of tightening (never 
> found a loose one). I also know the smile appears on other Catalina models 
> as I have seen it many times here in the north where we all have to haul for 
> the winter. 
> Regarding repairs on the smile. While I have done this three times and will 
> probably continue, I do wonder if I am sealing moisture into the repair and 
> if this is causing even more of a problem when it freezes. 
> Any comments? 
> 
> Charles Finn 
> Mighty Quinn #114 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org 
> > [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of David L Ryan 
> > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 6:26 PM 
> > To: Catalina 38 Listserve 
> > Subject: [C38] Keel Stub Wood Removal? 
> > 
> > I've been trying to further research this fix without too much 
> > success. Perhaps you all can help. 
> > 
> > Is procedure recommended for all Catalina 38s, or is it only 
> > recommended when a boat exhibits symptoms? 
> > 
> > If so, what are the symptoms? The "catalina smile"? Others? 
> > 
> > Who has had the fix done to their boat? Has anyone done it themselves? 
> > Any advice or cautions? Did the procedure correct the problem? 
> > 
> > Thanks! 
> > 
> > -David 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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