[C38] Listserve Digest, Vol 3, Issue 151
Charles
charles at finn.ws
Sat Nov 10 09:07:09 EST 2007
If you go to our website under tech-tips, you will find a product that
might be just what you need!
Charles Finn
Mighty Quinn #114
Les wrote:
> IF you mean the foggy look of the plastic, if it has had Windex or
> another ammonia cleaner used on it, then most likely you will not be
> able to do much with it. Otherwise, Plex is the produce we are
> currently using. If you are speaking about actual fog as in mist, then
> an antifogging product such as divers use on their masks will work.
> Plastic cleaners approved for the type of material you have in your
> dodger windows will tend to minimize fogging from moisture, but for the
> real stuff from fog, then the diving mask stuff works well.
>
> Never use ammonia cleaners on any of the plastic window materials,
> lexan, plexiglass, or the flexible plastic windows in dodgers. Any
> "new' cleaner should be tried in an inconspicious spot for several
> months to check its action. Lots of glass cleaners use ammonia, but
> glass is much more resistant, while most plastics will create a chemical
> bond to the ammonia creating the foggy look on the plastic. Sometimes
> if the damage is not too bad, one of the "buff it out" type cleaners
> will clear it up a bit, but it is a lot of work, and I found on
> convertible windows that it didn't clear it up for too long (about
> 10-13 months at best before the yellowing came back.)
>
> Regards,
> Les H
> On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 07:14 -0800, Sean Germon wrote:
>
>> What is the best way to clear up the fog on are doggier. We have
>> tried a few cleaning produce but nothing works. Any suggestions would
>> be appreciated as it is only 18 months old.
>>
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>> Today's Topics:
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>> 1. I'm a Catalina Owner (David L Ryan)
>> 2. Re: I'm a Catalina Owner (Tom T.)
>> 3. Re: congratulations! (D. R. Strong)
>> 4. C38 blog post, sail to the Farallone Islands (D. R. Strong)
>> 5. Re: congratulations! (David L Ryan)
>> 6. Re: congratulations! (Tom T.)
>> 7. Re: congratulations! (Eldore Wood)
>> 8. Re: congratulations! (Joseph Launie)
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:47:13 -0500
>> From: David L Ryan
>> Subject: [C38] I'm a Catalina Owner
>> To: Catalina 38 Listserve
>> Message-ID:
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes;
>> format=flowed
>>
>> Well it's done. I own a Catalina 38. We'll be sailing her to
>> the
>> Bahamas this Winter. I hope she'll be good to us.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 20:59:15 -0500
>> From: "Tom T."
>> Subject: Re: [C38] I'm a Catalina Owner
>> To: "Catalina 38 Listserve"
>> Message-ID: <380-2200711481591531 at earthlink.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>>
>> Congratulations and welcome to the community.
>>
>> Tom Troncalli
>> Renata hull# 95, St Pete, Fla
>>
>>
>> > [Original Message]
>> > From: David L Ryan
>> > To: Catalina 38 Listserve
>> > Date: 11/7/2007 8:47:54 PM
>> > Subject: [C38] I'm a Catalina Owner
>> >
>> > Well it's done. I own a Catalina 38. We'll be sailing her to
>> the
>> > Bahamas this Winter. I hope she'll be good to us.
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Listserve mailing list
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>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:05:05 -0800
>> From: "D. R. Strong"
>> Subject: Re: [C38] congratulations!
>> To: Catalina 38 Listserve
>> Message-ID: <47326ED1.3090405 at ucdavis.edu>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Dear David: Do keep us posted on your trip. I worry about
>> draft of our
>> boats around coral islands.
>> don
>>
>> David L Ryan wrote:
>> > Well it's done. I own a Catalina 38. We'll be sailing her to
>> the
>> > Bahamas this Winter. I hope she'll be good to us.
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Listserve mailing list
>> > Listserve at catalina38.org
>> >
>> http://catalina38.org/mailman/listinfo/listserve_catalina38.org
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Donald R. Strong
>> Professor
>> Section of Evolution and Ecology
>> University of California Davis
>> 95616
>> 530 752 7886
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:10:57 -0800
>> From: "D. R. Strong"
>> Subject: [C38] C38 blog post, sail to the Farallone Islands
>> To: c38 , Catalina 38 List Server
>>
>> Message-ID: <47327031.3060103 at ucdavis.edu>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>>
>> Dear C38ers: You might enjoy the account of our sail to the
>> Farallone
>> Islands, on our blog.
>> regards, Don
>>
>> http://discreetchar.blogspot.com/
>>
>> --
>> Donald & Karin Strong
>> Catlina 38 Discreet Charm
>> Emerycove, San Francisco Bay
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:13:42 -0500
>> From: David L Ryan
>> Subject: Re: [C38] congratulations!
>> To: drstrong at ucdavis.edu, Catalina 38 Listserve
>>
>> Message-ID:
>> <13FAD377-A2A8-4C02-A70E-25A63873DA4A at dlrfilms.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes;
>> format=flowed
>>
>> I'm a West Coast sailer, so all this skinny water stuff is
>> pretty new
>> to me, and the idea of sailing over 12 feet of water for miles
>> and
>> mile and miles is just plain weird. But the previous owner
>> took her
>> to the Abacos several times, always had fun, and never got so
>> stuck
>> he couldn't get himself unstuck. (His advice is if you're
>> going to
>> push your luck on a shallow cut, do it slow and do it will the
>> tide
>> is rising!)
>>
>> The boat's up to it. We'll soon see if I am!
>>
>>
>> On Nov 7, 2007, at 9:05 PM, D. R. Strong wrote:
>>
>> > Dear David: Do keep us posted on your trip. I worry about
>> draft of our
>> > boats around coral islands.
>> > don
>> >
>> > David L Ryan wrote:
>> >> Well it's done. I own a Catalina 38. We'll be sailing her
>> to the
>> >> Bahamas this Winter. I hope she'll be good to us.
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Listserve mailing list
>> >> Listserve at catalina38.org
>> >>
>> http://catalina38.org/mailman/listinfo/listserve_catalina38.org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > --
>> > Donald R. Strong
>> > Professor
>> > Section of Evolution and Ecology
>> > University of California Davis
>> > 95616
>> > 530 752 7886
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Listserve mailing list
>> > Listserve at catalina38.org
>> >
>> http://catalina38.org/mailman/listinfo/listserve_catalina38.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 21:45:50 -0500
>> From: "Tom T."
>> Subject: Re: [C38] congratulations!
>> To: "Catalina 38 Listserve"
>> Message-ID: <380-22007114824550546 at earthlink.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>>
>> My 38 is a shoal draft model and I keep it in Florida where
>> the water is
>> "thin" but I've also sailed much of the Bahamas in a boat with
>> over 6' of
>> draft and only rarely did we hit bottom. There is a lot of
>> thin water in
>> the Bahamas but most places are easily reached with some
>> prudence.
>>
>> Tom Troncalli
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > [Original Message]
>> > From: David L Ryan
>> > To: ; Catalina 38 Listserve
>>
>> > Date: 11/7/2007 9:14:15 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [C38] congratulations!
>> >
>> > I'm a West Coast sailer, so all this skinny water stuff is
>> pretty new
>> > to me, and the idea of sailing over 12 feet of water for
>> miles and
>> > mile and miles is just plain weird. But the previous owner
>> took her
>> > to the Abacos several times, always had fun, and never got
>> so stuck
>> > he couldn't get himself unstuck. (His advice is if you're
>> going to
>> > push your luck on a shallow cut, do it slow and do it will
>> the tide
>> > is rising!)
>> >
>> > The boat's up to it. We'll soon see if I am!
>> >
>> >
>> > On Nov 7, 2007, at 9:05 PM, D. R. Strong wrote:
>> >
>> > > Dear David: Do keep us posted on your trip. I worry about
>> draft of our
>> > > boats around coral islands.
>> > > don
>> > >
>> > > David L Ryan wrote:
>> > >> Well it's done. I own a Catalina 38. We'll be sailing her
>> to the
>> > >> Bahamas this Winter. I hope she'll be good to us.
>> > >>
>> > >> _______________________________________________
>> > >> Listserve mailing list
>> > >> Listserve at catalina38.org
>> > >>
>> http://catalina38.org/mailman/listinfo/listserve_catalina38.org
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Donald R. Strong
>> > > Professor
>> > > Section of Evolution and Ecology
>> > > University of California Davis
>> > > 95616
>> > > 530 752 7886
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Listserve mailing list
>> > > Listserve at catalina38.org
>> > >
>> http://catalina38.org/mailman/listinfo/listserve_catalina38.org
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> Date:
>> 11/6/2007 8:05 PM
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 21:38:26 -0800 (PST)
>> From: Eldore Wood
>> Subject: Re: [C38] congratulations!
>> To: tdtron at earthlink.net, Catalina 38 Listserve
>>
>> Message-ID: <771713.97622.qm at web56701.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Congrats!
>>
>> - as new owners of a beautiful Catalina 38 ft ourselves, soon
>> to be re-named Shya Amanzi (Zulu for hit the water) and
>> sailing out of Alameda, we could not be happier with our boat.
>> Although we have only had her for a 2 months we are thrilled
>> with her sailing perfomance and grace. Enjoy and keep us
>> posted onyour trip!
>>
>> Eldore' and Victor Wood
>>
>>
>> "Tom T." wrote:
>> My 38 is a shoal draft model and I keep it in Florida where
>> the water is
>> "thin" but I've also sailed much of the Bahamas in a boat with
>> over 6' of
>> draft and only rarely did we hit bottom. There is a lot of
>> thin water in
>> the Bahamas but most places are easily reached with some
>> prudence.
>>
>> Tom Troncalli
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > [Original Message]
>> > From: David L Ryan
>> > To: ; Catalina 38 Listserve
>>
>>
>> > Date: 11/7/2007 9:14:15 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [C38] congratulations!
>> >
>> > I'm a West Coast sailer, so all this skinny water stuff is
>> pretty new
>> > to me, and the idea of sailing over 12 feet of water for
>> miles and
>> > mile and miles is just plain weird. But the previous owner
>> took her
>> > to the Abacos several times, always had fun, and never got
>> so stuck
>> > he couldn't get himself unstuck. (His advice is if you're
>> going to
>> > push your luck on a shallow cut, do it slow and do it will
>> the tide
>> > is rising!)
>> >
>> > The boat's up to it. We'll soon see if I am!
>> >
>> >
>> > On Nov 7, 2007, at 9:05 PM, D. R. Strong wrote:
>> >
>> > > Dear David: Do keep us posted on your trip. I worry about
>> draft of our
>> > > boats around coral islands.
>> > > don
>> > >
>> > > David L Ryan wrote:
>> > >> Well it's done. I own a Catalina 38. We'll be sailing her
>> to the
>> > >> Bahamas this Winter. I hope she'll be good to us.
>> > >>
>> > >> _______________________________________________
>> > >> Listserve mailing list
>> > >> Listserve at catalina38.org
>> > >>
>> http://catalina38.org/mailman/listinfo/listserve_catalina38.org
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Donald R. Strong
>> > > Professor
>> > > Section of Evolution and Ecology
>> > > University of California Davis
>> > > 95616
>> > > 530 752 7886
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Listserve mailing list
>> > > Listserve at catalina38.org
>> > >
>> http://catalina38.org/mailman/listinfo/listserve_catalina38.org
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Listserve mailing list
>> > Listserve at catalina38.org
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>> >
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>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> Eldore' Wood
>> Photographer/Artist
>> Kubili Fine Art Photography
>> www.kubili.com
>>
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:14:36 -0800
>> From: Joseph Launie
>> Subject: Re: [C38] congratulations!
>> To: Catalina 38 Listserve
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>> Welcome to both of you new Catalina 38 owners. We hope you
>> will join the
>> Catalina 38 International Association if you have not already
>> done so.
>> This helps keep all our communications afloat. Those of you in
>> colder
>> locations might be interested to hear of our race Sunday in
>> Macavity
>> around an oil Platform 6 miles offshore. We had a spinnaker
>> reach to the
>> Platform in 15 knots of breeze with a smooth sea and a close
>> reach,almost beat, back to the turning mark, a large bell buoy
>> and a
>> beat to the finish. In a diverse 21 boat fleet we corrected to
>> second.
>> The first place boat was a Hinkley 52 who flew a chute for the
>> first
>> time in this race and beat us boat for boat by 2 minutes. We
>> averaged
>> over 5 1/2 knots for the race and hit sevens close reaching
>> under number
>> one genoa in 16 knots approaching the bell buoy.It was
>> overcast and a
>> little chilly - air temperature was about 68. We had a crew of
>> 5
>> including 2 couples and the old man driving. We flew our
>> asymmetric
>> chute. The Catalina 38 can really move. Joe Launie C-38
>> Commodore, Santa
>> Barbara, California
>>
>> Eldore Wood wrote:
>> > Congrats!
>> >
>> > - as new owners of a beautiful Catalina 38 ft
>> > ourselves, soon to be re-named */Shya Amanzi/* (Zulu
>> for /hit the
>> > water/) and sailing out of Alameda, we could not be happier
>> with our
>> > boat. Although we have only had her for a 2 months we are
>> > thrilled with her sailing perfomance and grace. Enjoy and
>> keep us
>> > posted onyour trip!
>> >
>> > Eldore' and Victor Wood
>> >
>> >
>> > */"Tom T." /* wrote:
>> >
>> > My 38 is a shoal draft model and I keep it in Florida where
>> the
>> > water is
>> > "thin" but I've also sailed much of the Bahamas in a boat
>> with
>> > over 6' of
>> > draft and only rarely did we hit bottom. There is a lot of
>> thin
>> > water in
>> > the Bahamas but most places are easily reached with some
>> prudence.
>> >
>> > Tom Troncalli
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > [Original Message]
>> > > From: David L Ryan
>> > > To: ; Catalina 38 Listserve
>> >
>> > > Date: 11/7/2007 9:14:15 PM
>> > > Subject: Re: [C38] congratulations!
>> > >
>> > > I'm a West Coast sailer, so all this skinny water stuff is
>> > pretty new
>> > > to me, and the idea of sailing over 12 feet of water for
>> miles and
>> > > mile and miles is just plain weird. But the previous owner
>> took her
>> > > to the Abacos several times, always had fun, and never got
>> so stuck
>> > > he couldn't get himself unstuck. (His advice is if you're
>> going to
>> > > push your luck on a shallow cut, do it slow and do it will
>> the tide
>> > > is rising!)
>> > >
>> > > The boat's up to it. We'll soon see if I am!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Nov 7, 2007, at 9:05 PM, D. R. Strong wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Dear David: Do keep us posted on your trip. I worry
>> about
>> > draft of our
>> > > > boats around coral islands.
>> > > > don
>> > > >
>> > > > David L Ryan wrote:
>> > > >> Well it's done. I own a Catalina 38. We'll be sailing
>> her to the
>> > > >> Bahamas this Winter. I hope she'll be good to us.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> _______________________________________________
>> > > >> Listserve mailing list
>> > > >> Listserve at catalina38.org
>> > > >>
>> http://catalina38.org/mailman/listinfo/listserve_catalina38.org
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Donald R. Strong
>> > > > Professor
>> > > > Section of Evolution and Ecology
>> > > > University of California Davis
>> > > > 95616
>> > > > 530 752 7886
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > _______________________________________________
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>> > >
>> > >
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > *Eldore' Wood*
>> > *Photographer/Artist*
>> > *Kubili Fine Art Photography*
>> > *www.kubili.com*
>> >
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