[C38] bilge pump wiring
Larry Malmberg
larrypi at linkline.com
Mon Jun 9 15:05:29 EDT 2008
OK guys and gals, my question is answered. It would appear from all the
advice I have received so far the bilge pump(s) should be wired directly
into the batteries and NOT through the battery switches. We'll correct that
next trip down to Hassle. (I often wonder why they named that boat Hassle,
now I beginning to know LOL) with appropriate fuses etc.
A specail thanks to all that responded, again this list is the best, so much
knowledge here.
Best regards,
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[mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of alden Andre
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 11:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [C38] bilge pump wiring
Both of my bilge pumps are wired separately to the batteries with there
own control switches and fuses. When you buy a bilge pump it has
directions on how to correctly wire it up. I have two house banks so I
wired on pump to one house the other to the other house bank. If you
need directions go to west marine and pull out the directions on a bilge
pump and copy it down.
Alden Andre
Office: 877-550-FJ44(3544) or 503-618-1951
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Today's Topics:
1. Shaft Packing (Larry Malmberg)
2. emergency starter button (William Knowles)
3. Re: emergency starter button (Larry Malmberg)
4. Bilge Pump (Larry Malmberg)
5. Re: Bilge Pump (Duff, Russ (R.W.))
6. Re: Bilge Pump (William Knowles)
7. Re: emergency starter button (Tom T.)
8. Re: Bilge Pump (Tom T.)
9. One of my many projects (Phil Gay)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:41:42 -0700
From: "Larry Malmberg" <larrypi at linkline.com>
Subject: [C38] Shaft Packing
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One thing we try to keep in mind, I, Larry, am 6-3 about 250 and 63
years
young. Now it's pretty hard for me to fit into some of those dam small
places, that's why we have Steve. Steve is about 5-8, 165 and 45 years
young, actually we are going to put him on a diet soon. LOL So, if you
don't' have a Steve, well what can I say? LOL
Best regards,
Larry Malmberg
Hassle
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:56:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: William Knowles <william_k_19810 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [C38] emergency starter button
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I was talking to a dock mate about an accident here on the Chesapeake
where a boat got hit by a tanker ( no one was hurt just the owners
pocket book with fines) when they couldn't start their engine because
the key had broken off in the slot. He told me he has an emergency start
button no key required. I did not want to appear dumb as he owns a Cal
33. So does anyone have this system and if so is it easy to install?
Thanks in advance
Bill Flying Goose 324
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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:05:03 -0700
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News to me, please share the info.
Best regards,
Larry Malmberg
Hassle
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:08:04 -0700
From: "Larry Malmberg" <larrypi at linkline.com>
Subject: [C38] Bilge Pump
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We just discovered, this weekend, that our bilge pump does now go on if
our
batteries are set to the house. Is this typical? We really don't think
it
is but thought we had a bad bilge pump until we set the selector to All
and
then it kicked right on. It seems to me that the bilge pump should be
independent of any selection of batteries. Any input here?
Best regards,
Larry Malmberg
Hassle
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:45:27 -0400
From: "Duff, Russ (R.W.)" <rduff at visteon.com>
Subject: Re: [C38] Bilge Pump
To: larrypi at linkline.com, Catalina 38 Listserve
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Mine is wired directly to the battery through the float switch. I also
installed a bypass switch on the electrical panel so that I can turn it
on
and pump the last bit of water out that the pump won't get using just
the
float switch.
Sincerely,
Russ Duff
Catalina 38, Hull #112
"AVANTURA"
Lake Erie
Grosse Ile, Michigan
RDUFF AT VISTEON DOT COM
AVANTURA AT COMCAST DOT NET
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[mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Larry Malmberg
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:08 PM
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Subject: [C38] Bilge Pump
We just discovered, this weekend, that our bilge pump does now go on if
our
batteries are set to the house. Is this typical? We really don't think
it
is but thought we had a bad bilge pump until we set the selector to All
and
then it kicked right on. It seems to me that the bilge pump should be
independent of any selection of batteries. Any input here?
Best regards,
Larry Malmberg
Hassle
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:49:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: William Knowles <william_k_19810 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [C38] Bilge Pump
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I also have a three way switch on manual, off, auto.
--- On Mon, 6/9/08, Duff, Russ (R.W.) <rduff at visteon.com> wrote:
> From: Duff, Russ (R.W.) <rduff at visteon.com>
> Subject: Re: [C38] Bilge Pump
> To: larrypi at linkline.com, "Catalina 38 Listserve"
<listserve at catalina38.org>
> Date: Monday, June 9, 2008, 5:45 PM
> Mine is wired directly to the battery through the float
> switch. I also
> installed a bypass switch on the electrical panel so that I
> can turn it on
> and pump the last bit of water out that the pump won't
> get using just the
> float switch.
>
> Sincerely,
> Russ Duff
> Catalina 38, Hull #112
> "AVANTURA"
> Lake Erie
> Grosse Ile, Michigan
> RDUFF AT VISTEON DOT COM
> AVANTURA AT COMCAST DOT NET
> -----Original Message-----
> From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
> [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of
> Larry Malmberg
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:08 PM
> To: 'Catalina 38 Listserve'
> Subject: [C38] Bilge Pump
>
> We just discovered, this weekend, that our bilge pump does
> now go on if our
> batteries are set to the house. Is this typical? We
> really don't think it
> is but thought we had a bad bilge pump until we set the
> selector to All and
> then it kicked right on. It seems to me that the bilge
> pump should be
> independent of any selection of batteries. Any input here?
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Larry Malmberg
> Hassle
>
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:53:01 -0400
From: "Tom T." <tdtron at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [C38] emergency starter button
To: "william_k_19810 at yahoo.com, Catalina 38 Listserve"
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Hi William,
To install an emergency starter button all you have to do is connect a
momentary button switch between the + hot wire to the starter switch and
the connection going to the starter relay. This will energize the
starter
solenoid but not the lift pump which runs from the "accessory"
connection
of the switch.
Most diesels will run with a bypass switch without the lift pump running
if
they don't have any air leaks in the fuel lines and filters. It is
dangerous to run without the lift pump because the smallest leak will
cause
a loss of injector prime causing the engine to stall but if your system
is
sealed very well, the engine could run forever without the aid of the
lift
pump as long as the fuel filters were kept very clean.
Tom Troncalli
The Renata hull #95
> [Original Message]
> From: William Knowles <william_k_19810 at yahoo.com>
> To: <listserve at catalina38.org>
> Date: 6/9/2008 12:56:10 PM
> Subject: [C38] emergency starter button
>
> I was talking to a dock mate about an accident here on the Chesapeake
where a boat got hit by a tanker ( no one was hurt just the owners
pocket
book with fines) when they couldn't start their engine because the key
had
broken off in the slot. He told me he has an emergency start button no
key
required. I did not want to appear dumb as he owns a Cal 33. So does
anyone
have this system and if so is it easy to install?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Bill Flying Goose 324
>
>
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:05:43 -0400
From: "Tom T." <tdtron at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [C38] Bilge Pump
To: "larrypi at linkline.com, Catalina 38 Listserve"
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I run both of my bilge pumps directly from the house batteries through a
dedicated switch on the nav. panel.
Tom Troncalli
The Renata #95
> [Original Message]
> From: Larry Malmberg <larrypi at linkline.com>
> To: Catalina 38 Listserve <listserve at catalina38.org>
> Date: 6/9/2008 1:09:21 PM
> Subject: [C38] Bilge Pump
>
> We just discovered, this weekend, that our bilge pump does now go on
if
our
> batteries are set to the house. Is this typical? We really don't
think
it
> is but thought we had a bad bilge pump until we set the selector to
All
and
> then it kicked right on. It seems to me that the bilge pump should be
> independent of any selection of batteries. Any input here?
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Larry Malmberg
> Hassle
>
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:27:07 -0700
From: "Phil Gay" <eyriepg at comcast.net>
Subject: [C38] One of my many projects
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One of my projects is to fix some of my deck water leaks. I was getting
brown water dripping around the port aft lower shroud chainplate, more
specifically from the inboard bolt which attaches it to the deck. I had
tried sealing it from the outside without removing the chainplate. The
chainplate is a complex weldment that fits up under the deck and is
bolted
(4 bolts) to a small plywood bulkhead which is bolted via 2 heavy
aluminum
angles to a shelf below the cabinet. I quickly figured out that I
would
have to drill out plugs which hold the face of the cabinet on. This was
actually easier than I thought it would be. There are 2 screws in the
head
that hold the face in place also. Then I had to remove the bulkhead in
order to lower the chainplate through the deck. The hardest part was
removing the screws that hold the shelves in place. Also the bulkheads
are
tightly wedged in under the trim strip that hides the hull to deck
bolts.
I got the chainplates out ? both sides were leaking. Between the outer
fiberglass layer on top and the hull liner were two layers of wood. The
upper layer was about ? inch thick and the lower one was closer to ?
inch
thick. The upper layer was wet but not delaminated, but the lower layer
was
solid as a rock and dry. I plan to put a vacuum cleaner hose on the
chainplate hole and try to suck the moisture out. Any other ideas?
Then my
plan is to dremel out the core and fill it with thickened epoxy. After
resurfacing the hole, I plan to reinstall the chainplate using 4200.
Again,
any comment? Questions? The chainplate looked good though a bit
stained.
Phil Gay
C38 049 Que Linda
Everett, WA
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