[C38] snow in Portland Oregon
William Knowles
william_k_19810 at yahoo.com
Fri Dec 26 08:58:42 EST 2008
I used a couple small fans to move the warm air around. I opened doors and removed cusshions and floor boards. Worked preety good.
Bill
--- On Tue, 12/23/08, Larry Malmberg <larrypi at linkline.com> wrote:
> From: Larry Malmberg <larrypi at linkline.com>
> Subject: Re: [C38] snow in Portland Oregon
> To: "'Catalina 38 Listserve'" <listserve at catalina38.org>
> Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 5:58 PM
> Alden, some very useful advice there, thank you for sharing.
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> Best regards,
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> Larry Malmberg
> Hassle
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> alden Andre
> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 9:46 AM
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> Subject: Re: [C38] snow in Portland Oregon
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> Everyone I went to check on my boat yesterday driving in 2
> feet of snow for
> 30 miles. This is what I found. A lot of snow and ice on
> the boat.
> Being on the Columbia river we had 30-50 kts winds with
> heavy snow. I had a
> heater running inside the the boat so the inside was 68
> degrees and before
> the storm I had put antifreeze in the head and holding tank
> and had drained
> all the water from the water tanks and put antifreeze on
> the raw water side
> of the engine. What did concern me though yesterday when I
> checked the boat
> was there was water in the bilge and the pump was on but
> the water was going
> nowhere. I finally found the frozen blockage up in the aft
> lazzerette 6
> inches from the exit hole. I was able to get the ice inside
> the tube to
> break fee and then the water flowed. I think since my boat
> faces west and
> the wind was from the east causing waves to hit the boat
> and ice to
> accumulate on the aft side causing colder temps back there
> froze the
> accumulated water in the tube there. After getting flow I
> went to home depot
> and got some insulation to put around the tube back there.
> If the boat would
> have collected more water there was no way for the bilge
> pumps to work. If
> you would like to see some picks of the snow please feel
> free to email me.
> Also my boat had a full enclosure up and the cockpit was
> free of snow and
> ice so if you don't have a cockpit enclosure I am sure
> the temps in the aft
> section could even be colder. Have a merry Christmas.
>
> Alden Andre
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> From: William Knowles <william_k_19810 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [C38] Snow
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> We left the boat in the water last year and used an oil
> filled heater set at
> the lowest setting worked great. We have solar vent fans to
> move the air
> around. Happy Holidays from the crew of "Flying
> Goose"
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> > Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 6:57 PM I'd say
> keep the dryers going
> > and maybe a low level heater too.
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> > Subject: [C38] Snow
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> > Gentlemen of the North, We have been dumped with cold
> temperatures and
> > snow levels that we don't see except for every few
> decades.
> > I have a 18" of
> > snow on my boat, The lake wont freeze, but since I
> have never thought
> > about winterizing my boat to this extent, Is there
> anything in
> > particular I should worry about. Thanks.
> >
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> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:34:39 EST
> From: Mikenolen at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [C38] Snow
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> Happy holidays to all in the frozen NW.
> >From my perspective, at 4800' above sea level, it
> seems like you guys
> have
> it made. Our general rule for winterizing boats is
> generally based on water
> temperature. We start getting nervous when the water
> temperature get into
> the low forties. With that said, in our climate, the
> "air temps" are
> generally getting into the single digits when the water
> hits forty. First
> action, drain down fresh water systems, I generally pour in
> a gallon of
> "pink" and pump it through all fixtures, galley
> and head. I pour another
> gallon in the head and pump it through to the holding
> tank.. ( leave some in
> the bowl). Since we sail as long as the water isn't too
> hard, engines are
> the last. I close the through hull to the engine, remove
> the hose and stick
> the end of the pickup into a gallon of "pink",
> start the engine and wait
> until my exhaust turns pink.
> Return the pick up hose to the through hull, tighten
> clamps. When I want to
> sail through out the winter all I have to do is open
> through hull (normal
> procedure) fire up the motor and head out. The $2.50
> additional cost to a
> late winter sail is, well, nothing compared to being out on
> the water. The
> engine takes about 2 to 3 minutes to winterize. I leave my
> boat in the
> water all year.
> Most years we don't get too much ice but some years I
> could drive my truck
> to the end of the dock. We have big bubblers under the
> boats.
> Burrrr!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Mike and Buck (pup-1st mate)
> S/V The Great Escape
> Dock 300 slip 317
> Lake Pueblo, Co
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> In a message dated 12/22/2008 11:34:22 P.M. Mountain
> Standard Time,
> SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com writes:
>
>
> Ken,
>
> Swantown is the first boat yard we had Peregrine at after
> we bought
> her...Did you and I meet last March or April while she was
> on the hard?
> I shoveled
> off the deck too, I should get to the cockpit, we had snow
> covering the
> sides
> of the boat about an inch thick hanging down about 6"
> above the
> waterline.
> Thanks for the tip on the engine door, I hadnt thought of
> that. Ice on
>
> saltwater....you guys must have gotten alot lower
> temperatures than we
> have. I was
> warned by the guys at Fisheries Supply that do maintenance
> work for the
>
> marinas in the area not to use portable heaters. Their
> comment was
> that the
> resistance at the deck plug is the highest point in the
> circuit and
> that the
> plugs are where they see the most damage from fires and
> melting. I have
> used one
> for years, but that made me a little nervous especially
> since they have
> a
> box of melted and burned plugs to back up their claims.
> The rum is
> sitting in
> the galley sink just in case!!
>
>
>
> ____________________________________
> From: Kenneth M. Sutto
> Sent: Mon 12/22/2008 4:03 PM
> To: Organization - listserve at catalina38
> Subject: Re: [C38] Snow
>
>
> Steve, I am down here in Olympia at Swantown Marina. I had
> 10+ inches of
>
> snow on deck.The marina has a thin shean of ice on the
> water. My family
> helped
> shovel the snow off of Sundancer and off the jetty. I use a
> low control
> heater
> you can get at West Marine. It has a thermostat that kicks
> in and out
> at a
> certain temperature. I also keep my access door open below
> the steps to
> the
> engine along with the sette covers away from the back
> storage areas.
> Also I
> keep open the access board to the bilges for easy checking
> ,just
> incase. And
> last but not lease I keep one bottle each of bourbon and
> dark rum for
> emergency
> use. These last two items are very important and should be
> readily
> accessable.
> Regards,
> Ken "Sundancer"
> PS These last few weeks I have been going down and
> running my engine
> every
> days to keep the fluids "loose".
>
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> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:54:51 -0800
> From: SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com
> To: listserve at catalina38.org
> Subject: [C38] Snow
>
>
> Gentlemen of the North, We have been dumped with cold
> temperatures and
> snow
> levels that we don't see except for every few decades.
> I have a 18"
> of snow
> on my boat, The lake wont freeze, but since I have never
> thought about
> winterizing my boat to this extent, Is there anything in
> particular I
> should worry
> about. Thanks.
>
> Steve Smolinske
> President
>
> 4M Company, Inc.
> 15660 Nelson Place South
> Seattle, WA 98188
> 425-227-4500
> _http://www.rainierrubber.com/_
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> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:35:04 -0500
> From: Gus Woods <GWoods at restaurant.org>
> Subject: Re: [C38] Snow
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> I have followed the exchange of messages about how to
> handle cold
> weather with interest. I always leave everything closed
> inside the cabin
> except the bilge which always gets wet and needs some
> ventilation. On
> the Chesapeake the air temperature is currently 20 degrees
> but the water
> is 38 degrees so I think it is good to isolate the engine
> area from the
> colder outside air as much as possible to take advantage of
> the warmer
> water in your slip.
>
> I once spent a few seconds swimming in the ocean at Big Sur
> so I know
> that our water is probably a little warmer now than you
> West Coast
> people get ever get but your water is probably still
> liquid so it is
> warmer than the arctic air some of you currently have(I can
> get my digs
> too!).
> From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
> [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of
> Kenneth M. Sutto
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 7:03 PM
> To: Organization - listserve at catalina38
> Subject: Re: [C38] Snow
>
> Steve, I am down here in Olympia at Swantown Marina. I had
> 10+ inches of
> snow on deck.The marina has a thin shean of ice on the
> water. My family
> helped shovel the snow off of Sundancer and off the jetty.
> I use a low
> control heater you can get at West Marine. It has a
> thermostat that
> kicks in and out at a certain temperature. I also keep my
> access door
> open below the steps to the engine along with the sette
> covers away from
> the back storage areas. Also I keep open the access board
> to the bilges
> for easy checking ,just incase. And last but not lease I
> keep one bottle
> each of bourbon and dark rum for emergency use. These last
> two items are
> very important and should be readily accessable.
> Regards,
> Ken "Sundancer"
> PS These last few weeks I have been going down and running
> my engine
> every days to keep the fluids "loose".
> ________________________________
>
> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:54:51 -0800
> From: SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com
> To: listserve at catalina38.org
> Subject: [C38] Snow
>
> Gentlemen of the North, We have been dumped with cold
> temperatures and
> snow levels that we don't see except for every few
> decades. I have a
> 18" of snow on my boat, The lake wont freeze, but
> since I have never
> thought about winterizing my boat to this extent, Is there
> anything in
> particular I should worry about. Thanks.
>
> Steve Smolinske
> President
>
> 4M Company, Inc.
> 15660 Nelson Place South
> Seattle, WA 98188
> 425-227-4500
> www.rainierrubber.com<http://www.rainierrubber.com/>
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