[C38] Great help

Les Howell hlhowell at pacbell.net
Sun Nov 6 15:32:35 EST 2005

OOPS, forgot one more measurement:
    11.  Depth of the spiggot, from the inside edge of the spiggot to the 
top edge of the ondeck opening.

            I will follow this up with some drawings sometime tomorrow.  I 
am no draftsman, and I will be using paint to do this, so keep your 
wisecracks down on my artistry ;-)

Les H
Les Howell Technical Specialist, Teradyne (retired) hlhowell at pacbell.net IM: 
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From: "Les Howell" <hlhowell at pacbell.net>
To: "Catalina 38 Listserve" <Listserve at catalina38.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [C38] Great help

> We Have it down to two.  Jess is going to get price and delivery for both
> and then I will choose one and go for it.  I'll let you know.
>    I was really surprised at the number of hatch styles available, and the
> differing specs.  There is even one that "vents", but I don't think I want
> that, because to me venting means water inside at some point.
>    Both models are cast aluminum (as our originals are), but the model on
> our boats is no longer available.  One is standard anodized with dark 
> smoke
> as standard glazing.  The other is powder coated black or white with smoke
> glazing as standard.   (Crossing fingers and hoping for a good price XX).
>    I was really dumb about hatches, so it took a bit of figuring for Jess
> to explain the required measurements.  And some terminology (did you know
> that the part of a hatch frame that extends down into the deck is called a
> spiggot?).  But we got it.  By the way for those contemplating such a
> change, the measurements that are necessary are:
>        1.  hatch cover outer dimension.
>        2.  Deck flange outer dimension (from one edge at the deck to the
> other edge at the deck).
>        3.  Interior opening width and length.
>        4.  Spiggot width and length (from the outer dimension.  In our
> boats the interior trim goes outside of the spiggot, so from trim to trim
> across the hatch opening.  Look carefully at how it is assembled and you 
> can
> see it.
>        5.  Interior trim width (new trim will have to be as wide or wider.
>        6.  Clearance if you wish to put in a larger hatch.  For our head
> hatches, they are near the "partners" that support the mast, with only 6"
> between the aft end of the hatch and the forward side of the mast.  I 
> would
> expect the partner member to be at least 4" and probably 6" to handle the
> strain of our tall rigs.
>        7.  Closed cover height above the deck.
>        8.  One support or two.
>        9.  Color of flange and trim (off white for ours)
>       10.  color of glazing.  There are a lot of colors available in some
> designs.
>    Hope this helps.
>    I'll send the two model numbers and tell which one I chose later.
> Regards,
> Les H
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