[C38] Listserve Digest, Vol 4, Issue 335
TherORl at aol.com
TherORl at aol.com
Wed Dec 17 12:43:07 EST 2008
It sounds like the smartest thing to do is take a lesson on my own boat.
Mike
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There is always the possibility of rounding up and a knock down when running
downwind with a spinnaker. Keen helmsman will prevent this though. We
have, fingers crossed, never rounded up to that point nor been knocked down,
close a couple of times though.
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I've got a question. We bought our C-38 about four years ago and was told by
the previous owner that we should never sail her with a spinnaker. He said
that running down wind with a spinnaker she would roundup very easy and that
was a good way to loose her. Is this true?
Mike
C-38
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 07:32:13 -0800 (PST)
From: david at dlrfilms.com
Subject: Re: [C38] Maybe a C-38
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Hello Mike and Buck,
Our C38 is our first big boat. My family and I put 1000 miles under the
keel last Winter. Then I put another 1000 miles under the keel bringing
the boat up the East Coast last April. Then we spend another five weeks
aboard as a family this Summer past.
Love love love our boat. Great sailer and a great value. Good looking too!
-D
> Howdy All
>
> I've been reading your post with great interest. I'm the proud owner of a
> C-27 #5966 and am looking to move up and out in my sailing adventures.
> The C-38
> has caught my eye. I'm a relatively new sailor, four years now. I've
> raced
> (beer can) on my C-27(solo) as well as crewed on a J-22 ("we" have the
> local
> cup for two years running) I've also crewed on an IP370 across the Gulf
> of
> Mexico as well as trailered my C-27 to BC (Solo-Gulf Islands to
> Desolation) for
> a couple of months this past summer. Now back in Colorado freezing my
> buns
> off. Anyway limited experience. I was wondering what "owners" of C-38's
> would
> think of having a C-38 for a live aboard / cruising boat for a solo
> sailor.
> I'm ready to get off the grid and have been looking for boats to
> accomplish
> this goal. BC was great but a little more waterline would be nice. With
> my
> limited experience, I still tend towards faster vs heavier displacement,
> with a
> heavy dose of conservatism. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Mike and Buck (pup & 1st mate)
> S/V The Great Escape
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:58:48 EST
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Russ, Thank you very much for your input. I have considered the tankage
issue. Water maker would be one of the first additions. My C-27 has a 20
gallon
waste tank, so I'm already dialed into that situation. BTW I have averaged
over 250 days a year under sail since I've owned my boat. I need an
"excuse" to
stay tied to the dock. ;-) Definitely not a dockside condo. Thanks again.
Mike and Buck (pup-1st mate)
S/V The Great Escape
Dock 300 slip 317
Lake Pueblo, Co
~~~~_/)~~~~~~~~~~~~(\_~~~~
~~~~~ (\_~~~~
In a message dated 12/17/2008 8:19:42 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
rduff at visteon.com writes:
We lived aboard our C-38 for almost a year and a half up on Lake Erie in
Michigan. There were four of us; my wife, 2 ? year old son, 4 year old
daughter,
and myself. Oh yeah, and our two cats. It actually wasn?t too bad. I think
doing it yourself would be a piece of cake. The only real PIA?s were the
water
and waste tank sizes. Once I added a city water hook up, the fresh water
was taken care of, now the only hassle to deal with was the holding tank.
Though this gives you a good excuse to take the boat out: ?Gotta? go pump
out so
I might as well take her for a sail.?
Sincerely,
Russ Duff
Catalina 38, Hull #112
"AVANTURA"
Lake Erie
Grosse Ile, Michigan
RDUFF AT VISTEON DOT COM
AVANTURA AT COMCAST DOT NET
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Subject: [C38] Maybe a C-38
Howdy All
I've been reading your post with great interest. I'm the proud owner of a
C-27 #5966 and am looking to move up and out in my sailing adventures. The
C-38 has caught my eye. I'm a relatively new sailor, four years now. I've
raced
(beer can) on my C-27(solo) as well as crewed on a J-22 ("we" have the
local
cup for two years running) I've also crewed on an IP370 across the Gulf of
Mexico as well as trailered my C-27 to BC (Solo-Gulf Islands to Desolation)
for
a couple of months this past summer. Now back in Colorado freezing my buns
off. Anyway limited experience. I was wondering what "owners" of C-38's
would
think of having a C-38 for a live aboard / cruising boat for a solo sailor.
I'm ready to get off the grid and have been looking for boats to accomplish
this goal. BC was great but a little more waterline would be nice. With my
limited experience, I still tend towards faster vs heavier displacement,
with a
heavy dose of conservatism. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Mike and Buck (pup & 1st mate)
S/V The Great Escape
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~~~~~ (\_~~~~
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:11:07 -0800
From: "D. R. Strong" <drstrong at ucdavis.edu>
Subject: Re: [C38] sail tres cool with spinnaker
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pole and asym!
TherORl at aol.com wrote:
> I've got a question. We bought our C-38 about four years ago and was
> told by the previous owner that we should never sail her with a
> spinnaker. He said that running down wind with a spinnaker she would
> roundup very easy and that was a good way to loose her. Is this true?
>
> Mike
> C-38
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/17/ 2008 7:59:37 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> listserve-request at catalina38.org writes:
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> 2. Re: Maybe a C-38 (Mikenolen at aol.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 07:32:13 -0800 (PST)
> From: david at dlrfilms.com
> Subject: Re: [C38] Maybe a C-38
> To: "Catalina 38 Listserve" <listserve at catalina38.org>
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>
> Hello Mike and Buck,
>
> Our C38 is our first big boat. My family and I put 1000 miles
> under the
> keel last Winter. Then I put another 1000 miles under the keel
> bringing
> the boat up the East Coast last April. Then we spend another five
> weeks
> aboard as a family this Summer past.
>
> Love love love our boat. Great sailer and a great value. Good
> looking too!
>
> -D
>
>
>
>
> > Howdy All
> >
> > I've been reading your post with great interest. I'm the proud
> owner of a
> > C-27 #5966 and am looking to move up and out in my sailing
> adventures.
> > The C-38
> > has caught my eye. I'm a relatively new sailor, four years now.
> I've
> > raced
> > (beer can) on my C-27(solo) as well as crewed on a J-22 ("we"
> have the
> > local
> > cup for two years running) I've also crewed on an IP370 across
> the Gulf
> > of
> > Mexico as well as trailered my C-27 to BC (Solo-Gulf Islands to
> > Desolation) for
> > a couple of months this past summer. Now back in Colorado
> freezing my
> > buns
> > off. Anyway limited experience. I was wondering what "owners"
> of C-38's
> > would
> > think of having a C-38 for a live aboard / cruising boat for a solo
> > sailor.
> > I'm ready to get off the grid and have been looking for boats to
> > accomplish
> > this goal. BC was great but a little more waterline would be
> nice. With
> > my
> > limited experience, I still tend towards faster vs heavier
> displacement,
> > with a
> > heavy dose of conservatism. Any thoughts would be greatly
> appreciated.
> >
> > Mike and Buck (pup & 1st mate)
> > S/V The Great Escape
> >
> > ~~~~_/)~~~~~~~~~~~~(\_~~~~
> > ~~~~~ (\_~~~~
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> email, and
> > favorite sites in one place. Try it now.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:58:48 EST
> From: Mikenolen at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [C38] Maybe a C-38
> To: listserve at catalina38.org
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>
> Russ, Thank you very much for your input. I have considered the
> tankage
> issue. Water maker would be one of the first additions. My C-27
> has a 20 gallon
> waste tank, so I'm already dialed into that situation. BTW I have
> averaged
> over 250 days a year under sail since I've owned my boat. I need
> an "excuse" to
> stay tied to the dock. ;-) Definitely not a dockside condo.
> Thanks again.
>
> Mike and Buck (pup-1st mate)
> S/V The Great Escape
> Dock 300 slip 317
> Lake Pueblo, Co
> ~~~~_/)~~~~~~~~~~~~(\_~~~~
> ~~~~~ (\_~~~~
>
>
> In a message dated 12/17/2008 8:19:42 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
> rduff at visteon.com writes:
>
>
> We lived aboard our C-38 for almost a year and a half up on Lake
> Erie in
> Michigan. There were four of us; my wife, 2 ? year old son, 4
> year old daughter,
> and myself. Oh yeah, and our two cats. It actually wasn?t too
> bad. I think
> doing it yourself would be a piece of cake. The only real PIA?s
> were the water
> and waste tank sizes. Once I added a city water hook up, the
> fresh water
> was taken care of, now the only hassle to deal with was the
> holding tank.
> Though this gives you a good excuse to take the boat out: ?Gotta?
> go pump out so
> I might as well take her for a sail.?
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Russ Duff
> Catalina 38, Hull #112
> "AVANTURA"
> Lake Erie
> Grosse Ile, Michigan
> RDUFF AT VISTEON DOT COM
> AVANTURA AT COMCAST DOT NET
>
>
>
> ____________________________________
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> From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
> [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of
> Mikenolen at aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 1:58 PM
> To: listserve at catalina38.org
> Subject: [C38] Maybe a C-38
>
> Howdy All
>
>
>
> I've been reading your post with great interest. I'm the proud
> owner of a
> C-27 #5966 and am looking to move up and out in my sailing
> adventures. The
> C-38 has caught my eye. I'm a relatively new sailor, four years
> now. I've raced
> (beer can) on my C-27(solo) as well as crewed on a J-22 ("we"
> have the local
> cup for two years running) I've also crewed on an IP370 across
> the Gulf of
> Mexico as well as trailered my C-27 to BC (Solo-Gulf Islands to
> Desolation) for
> a couple of months this past summer. Now back in Colorado
> freezing my buns
> off. Anyway limited experience. I was wondering what "owners" of
> C-38's would
> think of having a C-38 for a live aboard / cruising boat for a
> solo sailor.
> I'm ready to get off the grid and have been looking for boats to
> accomplish
> this goal. BC was great but a little more waterline would be
> nice. With my
> limited experience, I still tend towards faster vs heavier
> displacement, with a
> heavy dose of conservatism. Any thoughts would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
>
>
> Mike and Buck (pup & 1st mate)
> S/V The Great Escape
>
> ~~~~_/)~~~~~~~~~~~~(\_~~~~
> ~~~~~ (\_~~~~
>
>
>
>
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