[C38] gen bocks (alden)

alden Andre alden at clifforddevelopmentgroup.com
Thu Sep 3 08:45:02 EDT 2009


I use harken and garhour blocks attached is a picture.
Alden Andre

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   1. Genoa blocks (Kenneth M. Sutto)
   2. Re: Genoa blocks (Robert Miller)
   3. Re: Genoa blocks (Steve Smolinske)
   4. Re: engine temp (Steve Smolinske)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 19:29:51 -0700
From: "Kenneth M. Sutto" <kmspacific at hotmail.com>
Subject: [C38] Genoa blocks
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  I have a problem with my starboard track  for my genoa lead block. It
is located on the inside track and cannot be removed unless I take off
the life line stanchon. My port side is no problem and the block can be
moved to either track. I can't find a lead block to fit the track. I
ordered a Schaefer block from Defender but it does not fit the contour
of the track. West Marine does not seem to have a match either.  What I
have on Sundancer now are Merriman genoa lead blocks. If anyone can help
me find a block that is compatible please let me know.

 

Ken

      Sundancer
 		 	   		  
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 20:08:15 -0700
From: "Robert Miller" <chapuys at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [C38] Genoa blocks
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You probably need to get a new track.

 

Bob

"Bolero" Southwestern Yacht Club, San Diego

 

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Subject: [C38] Genoa blocks

 

  I have a problem with my starboard track  for my genoa lead block. It
is
located on the inside track and cannot be removed unless I take off the
life
line stanchon. My port side is no problem and the block can be moved to
either track. I can't find a lead block to fit the track. I ordered a
Schaefer block from Defender but it does not fit the contour of the
track.
West Marine does not seem to have a match either.  What I have on
Sundancer
now are Merriman genoa lead blocks. If anyone can help me find a block
that
is compatible please let me know.
 
Ken
      Sundancer

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 20:41:24 -0700
From: "Steve Smolinske" <SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com>
Subject: Re: [C38] Genoa blocks
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Ken can you send a picture of the problem?
 

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From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org on behalf of Kenneth M. Sutto
Sent: Wed 9/2/2009 7:29 PM
To: Organization - listserve at catalina38
Subject: [C38] Genoa blocks


  I have a problem with my starboard track  for my genoa lead block. It
is located on the inside track and cannot be removed unless I take off
the life line stanchon. My port side is no problem and the block can be
moved to either track. I can't find a lead block to fit the track. I
ordered a Schaefer block from Defender but it does not fit the contour
of the track. West Marine does not seem to have a match either.  What I
have on Sundancer now are Merriman genoa lead blocks. If anyone can help
me find a block that is compatible please let me know.
 
Ken
      Sundancer


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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 20:43:37 -0700
From: "Steve Smolinske" <SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com>
Subject: Re: [C38] engine temp
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Im using a 2 blade fixed, 15dx13p, 
On the installation the only bumps I ran into were finding the proper
fittings for the differences in hose sizes and the bracket depending on
what you have now may be a head scratcher, I didnt need to prime it, I
just filled the manifold as normal and it went without a problem.  
 
Steve

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From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org on behalf of William Knowles
Sent: Wed 9/2/2009 5:09 PM
To: Catalina 38 Listserve
Subject: Re: [C38] engine temp


I have a Kiwi 3 blade I get 6 knots at 2100. 
Bill Flying Goose


On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Robert Miller <chapuys at aol.com> wrote:


	1800 RPM and 6.5?  What kind of a prop are you using?  I am
using an
	Autoprop and can't get much more than 2500.  It may be too big.
I ordered
	the 299818 and will install it this weekend.  Any tips on
installation?  Do
	I need to run water through it to prime it?
	
	
	
	Thanks,
	
	
	
	Bob
	
	"Bolero" San Diego
	
	
	
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	[mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Steve
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	Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 8:53 PM
	To: Catalina 38 Listserve
	Subject: Re: [C38] engine temp
	
	
	
	Scott
	
	
	
	The link Charles posted earlier
	http://www.go2marine.com/product.do?no=97977F  was less than the
link I
	posted, they are about $320. the 3 x 17 I purchased fit right
inplace,
	although I did fabricate brackets to accomodate the larger
radius as well as
	four T bolt clamps.  I also needed to swap out the 1/2 hose barb
on the raw
	water pump to accomodate 7/8.   On my 2 x 16 exchanger the inlet
for raw
	water was 1/2.   The universal p/n for the 3 x17 is 299818 it
has 7/8 fresh
	water ports and 5/8 raw water.  The 299835 is 3 x 13 and has the
same size
	ports as the 299818.
	
	
	
	I also had to step down hose size from the manifold to my heater
(1" to 5/8)
	and from the heater to the exchanger I used a 5/8 to 3/4 hose
barb in order
	to step up to 7/8 going into the exchanger.  Last going from the
exchanger
	to the fresh water pump the same holds true with stepping up
from 7/8 to 1"
	
	
	
	curious when you cruise at 2400 how fast are you going?  I
generally keep it
	at 1800 and do about 6.5
	
	
	
	Steve
	
	Peregrine #312
	
	Seattle
	
	
	
	
	
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	From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org on behalf of Ann
Boochever
	Sent: Tue 9/1/2009 7:29 PM
	To: Catalina 38 Listserve
	Subject: Re: [C38] engine temp
	
	Even with 52 degree water in Alaska, our 2" heat exchanger has
been just
	passable at 2400 rpms. Is there an off-the-shelf replacement
that is larger
	and would fit in the same location, or do they have to be built
to order?
	Thanks
	Scott and Ann
	Tacita II
	Juneau, AK
	
	On 9/1/09 5:48 PM, "Les" <hlhowell at pacbell.net> wrote:
	
	> Thanks, Tom,
	> I figured you would be the one with the answer.  I am an
engineer
	> wannabe, so I study things pretty thoroughly, but I find I
sometimes
	> miss a detail, such as the one you point out here.  Too hot is
not good
	> for any engine.
	>
	> Regards,
	> Les H
	> On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 21:11 -0400, Tom T. wrote:
	>> Hi Les,
	>>
	>> You claim you don't want to appear stupid and then you go on
to show you
	>> are fairly astute about diesel engines.
	>>
	>> As you pointed out, the thermostat should regulate the engine
temperature
	>> for optimum performance.  The problem we have is that the
original heat
	>> exchangers on many of our engines were just too small and if
the water
	>> returning from the heat exchanger is still hotter than the
operating
	>> temperature of the engine, the engine is gonna overheat,
clear and
	simple.
	>>
	>> You cannot have a heat exchanger too large but you can have
one too
	small.
	>> If you had a heat exchanger ten times larger than you needed,
it would
	just
	>> mean your thermostat would regulate the coolant flow slower
so that the
	>> operating temperature would still be at the thermostat
temperature.  With
	>> the reduced flow from a very large heat exchanger, the flow
would be
	slowed
	>> to a trickle but the engine would still operate at the
correct
	temperature.
	>>
	>> Another plus of an oversize heat exchanger is that it gives a
margin of
	>> safety in case you pick up some debris causing a reduction of
cooling
	>> efficiency.  The little 2" heat exchanger that came with the
5424 had
	>> absolutely no reserve cooling capacity at full throttle,
especially in
	>> tropical waters.  Add debris restriction and you have a
meltdown, even at
	>> moderate speeds.
	>>
	>> Tom Troncalli
	>>
	>>
	>>
	>>
	>>> [Original Message]
	>>> From: Les <hlhowell at pacbell.net>
	>>> To: <tdtron at earthlink.net>; Catalina 38 Listserve
	>> <listserve at catalina38.org>
	>>> Date: 9/1/2009 8:43:19 PM
	>>> Subject: Re: [C38] engine temp
	>>>
	>>> Hi, everyone,
	>>>
	>>> I don't want to appear stupid, but I am.
	>>>
	>>> Diesel engines are basically heat engines.  Most are
designed to run at
	>>> some temperature range.  If they don't get to that range,
they become
	>>> very "dirty", with carbon and so forth, including poor
combustion and
	>>> greater nasty air products.  Does anyone have any
information about what
	>>> the "design" temp was for the original engines (I have an
XP-25B in JACE
	>>> now and it came with a larger heat exchanger, but that is no
indication,
	>>> as the engines internals will determine how much cooling is
right.)  If
	>>> the thermostat is working right, the engine should maintain
the right
	>>> temperature I think, but I don't know for sure.  The
mechanical
	>>> thermostats are in essence a two element spring that holds
them closed,
	>>> with a waxy cap that will solidify when the engine is cold
to keep it
	>>> shut until the engine warms up enough to run right.  These
thermostats
	>>> are really simple, but a vital piece of equipment for a
diesel.
	>>>
	>>> Regards,
	>>> Les H
	>>> On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 08:22 -0400, Tom T. wrote:
	>>>>
	>>>> Ditto,
	>>>>
	>>>> This sounds like my own experience.  That little original
2" heat
	>>>> exchanger has to go to the Davy Jones locker for good!
	>>>>
	>>>> Tom Troncalli
	>>>> Renata #95
	>>>>
	>>>>
	>>>>         ----- Original Message -----
	>>>>         From: Steve Smolinske
	>>>>         To: Catalina 38 Listserve
	>>>>         Sent: 8/31/2009 2:33:21 AM
	>>>>         Subject: [C38] engine temp
	>>>>
	>>>>
	>>>>         fyi
	>>>>
	>>>>         as a follow up to earlier discussions on engine
cooling, I
	>>>>         replaced the 2" x 16" heat exchanger with a 3 x17
and dropped
	>>>>         30 degrees off of my normal operating temp.  went
from 190 to
	>>>>         160 under way. With the larger exchanger I was also
able to
	>>>>         step up to 5/8 from 1/2 hose from the raw water
pump to the
	>>>>         exchanger.  Im amazed at how much smoother, quieter
and less
	>>>>         labored the engine sounds now.
	>>>>
	>>>>         Steve
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