[C38] cockpit drains (alden)

DUANE RAWSON drawson1983 at sbcglobal.net
Fri Aug 28 11:19:51 EDT 2009 


Relocate water heater to gain access to stern. I relocated my water heater under the galley sink. It barely fits but it makes access to steering and drive shaft possible. I had to remove the galley sink and put the water heater in from the top. It sits as close as possible to the port side and just clears the thru hull for the galley sink. There is no extra room there but it will fit and that space is not very useful anyway. With water heater gone, I enlarged the access hole in the port locker slightly and access now is pretty good. I replaced my rudder and steering cables without any access problems. My port locker has a liner that is against the hull so removal of the liner wound not imporve access on my boat (1983).  
 
Duane

From: david at dlrfilms.com <david at dlrfilms.com>
Subject: Re: [C38] cockpit drains (alden)
To: "Catalina 38 Listserve" <listserve at catalina38.org>
Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 5:39 AM



INTEMPERANCE has been hacked all to pieces. We've got a hatch in the
cockpit floor right above the engine. The floor and inboard wall of the
sailing locker has been cut away and replaced with a steel frame and
removable boards. Plus we have a factory access hatch on the starboard
quarterberth.

None the less it's a complete pain in the ass to do even the simplest
tasks on the engine or anything else stuffed back there. In fact, one of
my primary reasons for converting to a tiller is because god help us if
something ever went wrong with the wheel in a tight spot -- we'd be dead
and buried before I could ever crawl in their and do anything about it!

None the less, the mods are helpful. The previous owner solve the cracking
access hatch problem by laminating a piece of Georgia Highway Department
roadside onto the plastic hatchcover. He did it with silicone, which
lasted a while. I just re-did it with 3M bedding compound. My main
complaint is the hinges and rim collect sand. (We're on and off by dinghy
from a sand beach and have two kids and a Newfoundland dog.)  But the
hatch absolutely needed because sometime in the boat's past some genius
replaced the dual engine control with a single, so the only way to kill
the engine is to open the hatch, grab the throttle and pull it back. (I'll
fix this when remove the pedestal and remount the engine controls.)

It's also handy for light and access. When ever I have to go in their
beyond checking the oil I open everything up - front door, quarterberth
hatch, sailing locker, top hatch.



>
> I believe I have the same mods it always looks scary to crawl in there
> however it's not terably uncomfortable once your there. I always remove
> the panels from the lazerett to add more light.
>
>  Paul Impulse 328
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steve Smolinske <SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com>
> Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:42 pm
> Subject: Re: [C38] cockpit drains (alden)
> To: Catalina 38 Listserve <listserve at catalina38.org>
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>> We have the port side modification that looks like it was
>> factory (1985) as well as a very nice opening on the starboard
>> side in the quarter berth about 2' x 4' also looks to be
>> factory.
>>
>> Steve
>> Peregrine #312
>> Seattle
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>> Subject: Re: [C38] cockpit drains (alden)
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>>
>> Got it thanks
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Russ and Karleen Duff
>> <avantura at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I cut out the floor in the port cockpit locker.  Once that
>> was done, I could get underneath the cockpit floor and do all my
>> repairs. Removing the water heater makes it much easier to get
>> under there, and it's easy; only 4 lag screws hold it in.
>>
>>
>>
>> Russ and Karleen Duff
>>
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>> From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org [mailto:listserve-
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>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:46 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [C38] cockpit drains (alden)
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>> Russ is the floor you removed under the rear helm seat in that
>> locker? Mine is wood drop in's came that way from the factory I
>> think. Or is it somewhere else? I was on a 38 that had part of
>> the cockpit floor replaced with an access hatch. I am think
>> about doing that.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Russ and Karleen Duff
>> <avantura at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Fortunately I took all kinds of pictures. Unfortunately they
>> are all 4x6 glossies and I don't have a scanner. One of these
>> days, I will scan them and post them, along with my "replace the
>> rotten wood underneath the cockpit floor" project
>> pictures.  Did you know, acetone is great at removing epoxy
>> from your hair!
>>
>>
>>
>> Russ and Karleen Duff
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>> From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org [mailto:listserve-
>> bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of William Knowles
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:25 PM
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>> To: Catalina 38 Listserve
>> Subject: Re: [C38] cockpit drains (alden)
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>>
>>
>> Could you post some pictures?
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Russ and Karleen Duff
>> <avantura at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> You need to do the "remove the sail locker floor" modification
>> first. I did it a few years ago; it's easy but scary.
>>
>>
>>
>> Russ and Karleen Duff
>>
>>
>>
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>> To: Catalina 38 Listserve
>> Subject: Re: [C38] cockpit drains (alden)
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>>
>> How the heck does one even get close to the scupper
>> hoses?  >From the port side lazarette seat engine access I
>> have a water heater that will have to be removed and then I
>> still don't think I can get my upper body through the hole to
>> reach the hose clamps on the drains. I am 5'11" and 175 pounds.
>> Has anyone ever got to those hoses?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> G!enn
>> #248
>> San Francisco
>>
>>
>> Max Soto wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Probably the balls on the scoupper just are worn out. You will
>> have to take of the cap and order the replacement balls from
>> perko. They are on their catalog, but haven't seem them as an
>> stock item anywhere, They do seal better that ping pong balls. I
>> sent the replacement balls link to the list a couple of years
>> ago. I should be on the list archives for sure...
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>>
>>
>> Max
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>> We tried that and it helps but doesn't solve the problem, new
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>> Smolinske Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:40 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [C38] cockpit drains (alden)
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>> Alden
>>
>> If I remember right you can route your drains to the opposite
>> side of the
>> boat to solve the problem but I believe that if that is done
>> then our boats
>> dont meet some offshore requirement for the time it takes to
>> drain the
>> cockpit.
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>> Steve
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>> From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org on behalf of alden Andre
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>> Subject: Re: [C38] cockpit drains (alden)
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>> So I have a question for the list.
>> 1. how do you keep water from coming in from the cockpit drains?
>> My drains are strait down and it seems 6 kts or above water
>> seems to
>> rush in, I use wood plugs to stop this because we are always at
>> 7kts. I
>> am tired of putting in wooden through hole plugs in is there valves
>> people put in or is my boat just to ass heavy or is this just a
>> common problem with the c-38? Does any one have a fix?
>>
>> Alden Andre
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