[C38] Traveler Upgrade

Mon Apr 26 01:38:22 EDT 2010

Steve S 

How did you manage 12:1 inside the boom 

Kerry Grimes 
Little breeze,139 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "S Orton" <ssorton at hotmail.com> 
To: listserve at catalina38.org, tdtron at earthlink.net 
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 10:29:47 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [C38] Traveler Upgrade 

Steve S, If you use a loose footed main, all the vertical load from the boom goes through the clew to the leech no matter what the sheeting arrangement is. My problem for the outhaul wasn't that I didn't have enough mechanical advantage, as I have a small winch mounted forward on the boom, but it was trying to relieve the out haul. I would be beating to the weather mark, round the mark, set the spinnaker, try to ease outhaul, and I would be half way to the leeward mark before I could "hammer" the damn thing loose to soften the main. So that is why I threw the original equipment car away. Anybody need a boom outhaul car? You pay the postage and it is yours. 
Cheers, Steve O 

From: SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com 
To: tdtron at earthlink.net; listserve at catalina38.org 
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:16:11 -0400 
Subject: Re: [C38] Traveler Upgrade 

Exactly what Tom said I didn't care for the looksof the straight so I kept the curved. I also rerouted the main sheet so that the when sheeting more of the effort goes directly to the leech than the original set up. I also ran the garhaueur rigid vang control and a cunningham to the cockpit and they are on the same side as the mainsheet. So now when we race the main trimmer can do a more effective job with the shape. When I was thinking it through I decided to go with something I looked at all the time versus the amount of times It would be detrimental. Of course when cruising I don't worry about it that much. 

For the outhaul we replaced the internal 3:1 setup with a 12:1 and lead it forward to exit at the front of the boom on the bottom side it the is lead through a camcleat on a swivel so it can beeasily adjusted from any location on the deck. 

Steve Smolinske 

On Apr 24, 2010, at 7:25 AM, "Tom T." < tdtron at earthlink.net > wrote: 

I think the original curved traveler track was to follow the lines of the boat and also give extra head room when entering the boat. In my opinion, the curved track was a great compromise between function and looks. 

The raised mounts used to accommodate a straight track and still allow head clearance in the companionway may not look as pleasing as the original teak, low profile mounts but for sail control, the curved track can't compete with a straight track. 

If Catalina had used straight track with high side mounts when they designed and sold the 38, people would have complained about the looks of the track. Looks sell. 

I am one who much prefers function over form when you can't have both. I once ran into a cruiser in the Bahamas who lugged a heavy Delta anchor to the bow when anchoring next to us in the Abacos. Later I asked the sailor if he had considered keeping his bow anchor on the bow with a bow roller and mount like we had. 

His answer was that he didn't want to "ruin" the clean looks of his new Benneteau. 

Tom Troncalli 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: S Orton 
To: listserve at catalina38.org 
Sent: 4/24/2010 1:58:51 AM 
Subject: Re: [C38] Traveler Upgrade 

Steve S, I don't see the advantage of a curved track system (curved in the vertical plane). Is the recirculating ball car designed with a curvature to match the curved track or do you use multiple short cars ganged together? When I'm hard to weather and I want to flatten the boat for more speed, I just ease the traveler. If you have a curved track, you would have to also ease the main sheet. 
Am I wrong about the "advantage"? Steve O 

> From: SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com 
> To: listserve at catalina38.org 
> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 12:02:58 -0400 
> Subject: Re: [C38] Traveler Upgrade 
> 
> Alex 
> 
> One thing about the harken is they have a track systm which allows the 
> use of adjustable bolt locations so it is very easy to retrofit 
> existing hole locations. If you go with a curved track it may be best 
> to send your existing track back as we found that our curved track was 
> not evenly curved along the radius but rather had some flat spots and 
> I had to modify using a hydraulic press in our machine shop at 
> work. The only reason I didn't go with the garhauer was I was 
> concerned about sharp edges on the end control cars possibly catching 
> Lines or worse sails on the deck. 
> 
> Steve 
> 312 peregrine 
> Seattleww 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
> On Apr 23, 2010, at 2:10 AM, "Joseph Launie" < jlaunie at cox.net > wrote: 
> 
> > Brett, 
> > I just upgraded to a Harken traveler and wish I had done it ten 
> > years ago. We only race and we move the traveler under load very 
> > easily. I am not good with a camera but will try to get my crew to 
> > take pix this sunday during our practice. Joe Launie/Macavity 
> > 
> > bikahoga at aol.com wrote: 
> >> Ok I'm am finally ready to upgrade from a curved original track to 
> >> a new flat track. I would love the opinions of the group as to what 
> >> I should get. I'm looking at one at catalina direct online which 
> >> has a full upgrade for our specific boat. So any help would be 
> >> great. I am racing more then cruising. 
> >> Thanks 
> >> Brett 
> >> Jazz "313" 
> >> Annapolis, MD 
> >> Brett 
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