[C38] Traveler Upgrade
Charles Finn
charles at finn.ws
Mon Apr 26 09:19:53 EDT 2010
It sounds like our fleet has done quite a bit of innovating around our
boom! From traveler to vang to outhaul to sailtrack....
It would be GREAT if folks would send me pictures of these! I will then
mount them on the website.
Thanks in advance!
Chuck Finn
Mighty Quinn #114
Great Lakes
On 4/26/2010 1:38 AM, littlebreeze at comcast.net wrote:
> Steve S
>
> How did you manage 12:1 inside the boom
>
> Kerry Grimes
> Little breeze,139
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "S Orton" <ssorton at hotmail.com>
> To: listserve at catalina38.org, tdtron at earthlink.net
> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 10:29:47 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: [C38] Traveler Upgrade
>
> Steve S, If you use a loose footed main, all the vertical load from
> the boom goes through the clew to the leech no matter what the
> sheeting arrangement is. My problem for the outhaul wasn't that I
> didn't have enough mechanical advantage, as I have a small winch
> mounted forward on the boom, but it was trying to relieve the out
> haul. I would be beating to the weather mark, round the mark, set the
> spinnaker, try to ease outhaul, and I would be half way to the leeward
> mark before I could "hammer" the damn thing loose to soften the main.
> So that is why I threw the original equipment car away. Anybody need
> a boom outhaul car? You pay the postage and it is yours.
> Cheers, Steve O
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From: SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com
> To: tdtron at earthlink.net; listserve at catalina38.org
> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:16:11 -0400
> Subject: Re: [C38] Traveler Upgrade
>
>
> Exactly what Tom said I didn't care for the looksof the straight so I
> kept the curved. I also rerouted the main sheet so that the when
> sheeting more of the effort goes directly to the leech than the
> original set up. I also ran the garhaueur rigid vang control and a
> cunningham to the cockpit and they are on the same side as the
> mainsheet. So now when we race the main trimmer can do a more
> effective job with the shape. When I was thinking it through I
> decided to go with something I looked at all the time versus the
> amount of times It would be detrimental. Of course when cruising I
> don't worry about it that much.
>
> For the outhaul we replaced the internal 3:1 setup with a 12:1 and
> lead it forward to exit at the front of the boom on the bottom side it
> the is lead through a camcleat on a swivel so it can beeasily adjusted
> from any location on the deck.
>
>
> Steve Smolinske
>
> On Apr 24, 2010, at 7:25 AM, "Tom T." <tdtron at earthlink.net
> <mailto:tdtron at earthlink.net>> wrote:
>
> I think the original curved traveler track was to follow the lines
> of the boat and also give extra head room when entering the
> boat. In my opinion, the curved track was a great compromise
> between function and looks.
> The raised mounts used to accommodate a straight track and still
> allow head clearance in the companionway may not look as pleasing
> as the original teak, low profile mounts but for sail control, the
> curved track can't compete with a straight track.
> If Catalina had used straight track with high side mounts when
> they designed and sold the 38, people would have complained about
> the looks of the track. Looks sell.
> I am one who much prefers function over form when you can't have
> both. I once ran into a cruiser in the Bahamas who lugged a heavy
> Delta anchor to the bow when anchoring next to us in the Abacos.
> Later I asked the sailor if he had considered keeping his bow
> anchor on the bow with a bow roller and mount like we had.
> His answer was that he didn't want to "ruin" the clean looks of
> his new Benneteau.
> Tom Troncalli
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* S Orton <mailto:ssorton at hotmail.com>
> *To: *listserve at catalina38.org <mailto:listserve at catalina38.org>
> *Sent:* 4/24/2010 1:58:51 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [C38] Traveler Upgrade
>
> Steve S, I don't see the advantage of a curved track system
> (curved in the vertical plane). Is the recirculating ball car
> designed with a curvature to match the curved track or do you
> use multiple short cars ganged together? When I'm hard to
> weather and I want to flatten the boat for more speed, I just
> ease the traveler. If you have a curved track, you would have
> to also ease the main sheet.
> Am I wrong about the "advantage"? Steve O
>
> > From: SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com
> <mailto:SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com>
> > To: listserve at catalina38.org <mailto:listserve at catalina38.org>
> > Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 12:02:58 -0400
> > Subject: Re: [C38] Traveler Upgrade
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > One thing about the harken is they have a track systm which
> allows the
> > use of adjustable bolt locations so it is very easy to retrofit
> > existing hole locations. If you go with a curved track it
> may be best
> > to send your existing track back as we found that our curved
> track was
> > not evenly curved along the radius but rather had some flat
> spots and
> > I had to modify using a hydraulic press in our machine shop at
> > work. The only reason I didn't go with the garhauer was I was
> > concerned about sharp edges on the end control cars possibly
> catching
> > Lines or worse sails on the deck.
> >
> > Steve
> > 312 peregrine
> > Seattleww
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Apr 23, 2010, at 2:10 AM, "Joseph Launie"
> <jlaunie at cox.net <mailto:jlaunie at cox.net>> wrote:
> >
> > > Brett,
> > > I just upgraded to a Harken traveler and wish I had done
> it ten
> > > years ago. We only race and we move the traveler under
> load very
> > > easily. I am not good with a camera but will try to get my
> crew to
> > > take pix this sunday during our practice. Joe Launie/Macavity
> > >
> > > bikahoga at aol.com <mailto:bikahoga at aol.com> wrote:
> > >> Ok I'm am finally ready to upgrade from a curved original
> track to
> > >> a new flat track. I would love the opinions of the group
> as to what
> > >> I should get. I'm looking at one at catalina direct
> online which
> > >> has a full upgrade for our specific boat. So any help
> would be
> > >> great. I am racing more then cruising.
> > >> Thanks
> > >> Brett
> > >> Jazz "313"
> > >> Annapolis, MD
> > >> Brett
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