[C38] spinnaker moratorium

Charles B. Finn charles at finn.ws
Wed May 26 10:21:37 EDT 2010 

My apologies for coming in late of several conversations, but I have 
been off sailing!  We folks who spend too much time "on the hard" can 
get quite excited about splashing the boat and getting in the first sail 
of the year...  So here goes on several of the posts:

Blooper:  I have one loaned out to Bob Porter, who used it competing on 
the Great Lakes a couple years back.  I believe he had to give up 5 phrf 
to sail it....  Seems a lot, but flying this sail out front of our boats 
is a way to get "pulled" downwind.  I have flown these many times over 
the years and they are magical when the work.  A little scary too!  It 
is a light sail and I doubt it would withstand the kind of winds Steve 
is playing in.

Speakers:   I have attached a picture of where my marine waterproof 
speakers are installed.  As you can see, they are high up in the cockpit 
and to be frank, I think their failure due to water in the cockpit would 
not be an issue.  They would hardly be underwater even in a totally 
"pooped" situation.   I am an an old "rocker" and this location works 
great for being at the wheel, going downwind!   I just got Joe 
Bonamassa's new CD and can't wait to hear it on the boat!  (note:  my 
wife is not a fan of the speakers... you can really crank them up and 
she considers this noise pollution, which means they are off when she is 
on the boat.  Also, I don't use them close to shore or on moorings).

Stainless welding:  Stainless welding is pretty much like any other 
welding with the exception that it takes a lot more sanding and 
buffing.  The stainless attached image shows the aft structure I built 
that supports my solar collectors and wind generator  (it could easily 
mount radar, but I choose high up on the mast where it does not get in 
the way of the sails (radar photo)).   I also rebuilt the port stanchion 
area which is in the photo.  Like several of you, this was damaged 
during some rough sailing.  I like to think of metal as a kind of "play 
doh," that allows much more forming and to be honest... allows for 
mistakes without cost!  Weld does not look good?  Grind it off and do it 
again!  Welding is much more forgiving than woodwork!   Any MIG machine 
can handle stainless (you need different gas and wire, but that is no 
more expensive than the regular gas and wire).  If you want to save some 
welding shop money, you can offer to do the buffing yourself.  I can 
furnish anyone interested with where I get my buffing wheels and 
compounds, which should eliminate the "extra" costs a shop might want to 
add.
By the way, forming stainless tubing is again pretty simple.  A lot is 
made of using "pure" rollers in the forming machine, but a good cleaning 
of steel rollers, with a liberal application of grease works just fine.  
Every muffler shop has this equipment and they are usually experts at 
making bends.  Draw out your template on butcher paper and they should 
be able to form your rails for a very reasonable price.

Chuck Finn
Vice Commodore
Mighty Quinn  #114
Great Lakes



On 5/25/2010 10:52 PM, D McC wrote:
> Reading all of these comments about the wife not too enthralled about 
> sailing just when the sailing is getting good makes me thankful that 
> Herself is the first one on board to whoop when the sailing gets good 
> and I'm thinking about reefing.
> As for the spinnaker, we fly it whenever we can but when Herself and I 
> are double handing we often tack it to the anchor roller and avoid 
> sailing too deep. Not too efficient but fun.  With a full crew we rig 
> the pole and go for it ... still avoiding going too deep ... our boats 
> sail like beach balls with rudders when sailing deep or dead downwind 
> ... We are rigging a reaching strut this year to avoid deforming 
> stanchions when we head up with the chute still flying.
> Another question: Whatever happened to the blooper ??? It is now 
> banned in class racing, but my understanding is that it was developed 
> to counteract the tendency of IOR boats to yaw and round up/down when 
> sailing downwind under spinnaker.  I have considered rigging one (if I 
> can find a used one on the cheap) to see how the boat sails close to 
> and dead downwind. More research on this one..
>
> Fair Winds,
>
> Dave
>
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> *From:* Steve Smolinske <SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com>
> *To:* Catalina 38 Listserve <listserve at catalina38.org>
> *Sent:* Tue, May 25, 2010 1:37:24 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [C38] spinnaker moratorium
>
> My wife wonders why we need to spend money on sails when the motor 
> works just fine..
>
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> [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] *On Behalf Of *Steven Ribble
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 25, 2010 1:20 PM
> *To:* Catalina 38 Listserve
> *Subject:* Re: [C38] spinnaker moratorium
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> ...and I thought I was the only one with a nervous gal!
>
> Steve
>
> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 12:18 PM, PAUL NOTTE <panotte at shaw.ca 
> <mailto:panotte at shaw.ca>> wrote:
>
>     At least your wife will get on board with your sails raised . My
>     wife gets very nervous when the engine is shut down as soon as
>     that happens she starts donning every piece of survival gear on
>     the boat. I recognize this is probably my fault so we have signed
>     her up for sailing lessons this summer. The lesson is I am a
>     crappy teacher.
>       As for speakers in the cockpit I enjoy the sound of the water
>     streaming past the boat far to much to install them.
>       Paul
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