[C38] I Believe I Can Fly

Bill Haynes hayneswm at charter.net
Sat Nov 20 13:24:21 EST 2010


Guys, this was not an intentional submission to this forum.  I have previously sent out an explanation and an apology.  Here is the text of that msg:

Please accept my apology once again.  I must learn to double-check the email address my computer suggests before hitting the send button.  Normally it makes the right suggestion, but every now and then it pops up with an unexpected email address.  That is what happened here.  

Bill Haynes
Athens, GA

I hope that this is sufficient.

Bill
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: S Orton 
  To: Cat 38 
  Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 12:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [C38] I Believe I Can Fly


  All,  The spoken, but unwritten rules of this form is CATALINA 38 subject matter.  I belong to the listserve to be educated by other members experiences in Cat38 problems and fun outtings.  I believe that 98% (not backed by statistical data) of our members want the form to remain open and on subject.  Please note, this is spoken as a member not as a officer and hope 98% aggree.
  Cheers, Steve O (Santa Susanna)



   
  > Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 06:26:50 -0800
  > From: drstrong at ucdavis.edu
  > To: listserve at catalina38.org
  > Subject: Re: [C38] I Believe I Can Fly
  > 
  > Les and Joe: Ocean acidification is an extremely serious consequence of 
  > increased atmospheric CO2.
  > Don
  > 
  > On 11/19/10 11:27 PM, Joseph Launie wrote:
  > > Les,
  > > This topic affects us all. The oceans do not come off too well if 
  > > we do nothing. Joe Launie/Macavity
  > >
  > > On 11/19/2010 2:02 PM, Les wrote:
  > >> On Thu, 2010-11-18 at 07:55 -0500, Bill Haynes wrote:
  > >>> Paul, Thomas Friedman published an article yesterday that reflects my
  > >>> thoughts on Climate Change extremely well. I have extracted two
  > >>> paragraphs from it. Check it out and let me know what you think.
  > >>>
  > >>> Bill
  > >>>
  > >>>
  > >>> I Believe I Can Fly
  > >>>
  > >>> Reading the headlines these days, I can’t help but repeat this truism:
  > >>> If you jump off the top of an 80-story building, for 79 floors you can
  > >>> think you’re flying. It’s the sudden stop at the end that tells you
  > >>> you’re not. It’s striking to me how many leaders and nations are
  > >>> behaving today as though they think they can fly — and ignoring that
  > >>> sudden stop at the end that’s sure to come.
  > >>>
  > >>> Closer to home, America’s climate-deniers mounted an effective
  > >>> disinformation campaign that made “climate change” a four-letter word
  > >>> in the Republican Party. This undermined efforts to get a clean energy
  > >>> bill — the sort that might break our addiction to oil and take money
  > >>> away from the people our soldiers are fighting in the Middle East. And
  > >>> all of this happened in 2010, which is on track to be the Earth’s
  > >>> hottest year on record. So here’s the math: 98 climate scientists out
  > >>> of 100 will tell you that man’s continued carbon emissions pose the
  > >>> risk of disruptive climate change this century. Two out of 100 will
  > >>> tell you it doesn’t. And “conservatives” today tell you to bet on the
  > >>> two. If the climate-deniers are right — but we combat climate change
  > >>> anyway — we’ll have slightly higher energy prices but cleaner air,
  > >>> more renewable energy, a stronger dollar, more innovative industries
  > >>> and enemies with less money. If the deniers are wrong and we do
  > >>> nothing, your kids will meet the sudden stop at the end.
  > >>>
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  > >> Please do not put politics in this mix. There are different places to
  > >> post this stuff.
  > >>
  > >> As an rabid follower of data, with great experience in parsing data,
  > >> including datamining, there are many things I could say, but you
  > >> wouldn't believe them, and I will never believe there is anything like a
  > >> 98% agreement among real scientists.
  > >>
  > >> So lets not go down that road. This is a place for stuff related to
  > >> our boats.
  > >>
  > >> Thank you.
  > >>
  > >> Regards,
  > >> Les H
  > >>
  > >>
  > >>
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  > 
  > -- 
  > Donald R. Strong
  > Professor
  > Dept. of Evolution and Ecology
  > University of California, Davis 95616
  > 
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