[C38] Halyards

Jay Sorensen jsorensen at novarx.com
Wed Jan 12 14:10:03 EST 2011


After looking at your photo again I see that you are right.  I was
considering using a standard spin bail and block and then routing the
spin halyard to the jib sheave but that won't work at all.  Outside of
the mast it is for now!  But next year the mast is going to have a
little surgery.

 

Thanks!...........Jay  

 

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From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
[mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Steve Smolinske
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 9:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [C38] Halyards

 

I think you would run into problems with angles and loads on the jib
sheave if you flew a spinnaker from it,   The bail and block design
allows the spinnaker head to move around some on the spinnaker as the
jib halyard is designed for hoisting and holding.  

 

Steve,

 

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[mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Jay Sorensen
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 9:05 AM
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Subject: Re: [C38] Halyards

 

Yeah, that is what I was concerned about as well.  The Serendipity 43 I
crew on has everything running inside the mast and it's a very clean
installation.  The boat is an early 80's IOR racer and was very well put
together when new.  Sometimes I wonder if it might make more sense on
our stock boats to have a single jib halyard and 2 spinnaker halyards
and use the 2nd spin halyard to peel the jib when needed.  But I'm not
sure if the hoist angle would be OK.  Anyone out there doing that?  I
personally like having the greater flexibility in preparing for spin
sets as the jib is usually not changed during the short races here in
SD.

 

Thanks!..............Jay

 

Jay & Dorothy Sorensen

C-38 #311 Broad Reach

San Diego, CA

   

 

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From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
[mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Steve Smolinske
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:24 AM
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Subject: Re: [C38] Halyards

 

Thanks Jay,

 

I am running the second halyard outside the mast I still need to secure
the halyard to the mast somewhere around the first spreader or so to
keep the tail and halyard separate but other than that it works pretty
well.   

 

Steve

#312 Peregrine

Seattle

 

From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
[mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Jay Sorensen
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:19 AM
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Subject: Re: [C38] Halyards

 

Thank you Steve!

 

The combination of photo and link showed exactly what we are facing.  I
think we'll wait until the mast is down to replace the sheaves given the
low probability of halyard damage.  Your masthead looks like its right
out of the box!  Nice work!  Maybe in a few years our sister ship will
look as good.  I think I noticed 2 spinnaker halyards, yes?  If so, did
you run the 2nd halyard down the inside of the mast or outside?  

 

Thanks!.............Jay

 

Jay & Dorothy Sorensen

C-38 #311 Broad Reach

San Diego, CA

 

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From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
[mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] On Behalf Of Steve Smolinske
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 6:41 PM
To: Catalina 38 Listserve
Subject: RE: [C38] Halyards

 

Jay,

 

Here are a few photos of my mast when it was down and being worked on
and then back up.  In the one you can see the painted mast with the
cover plates removed and in the other with the plate in place.  this
should help with giving some perspective to what Tom talked about trying
to do it from the top of the mast.   Our masts were manufactured by
lefeill http://www.lefiell.com/2marine_main.html  This link goes to the
mast and mast head page, I believe our mast is p/n OM4C with a cut
length of 55'  Im sure they could probably give you a schematic of the
proper mast head so that you could get another perspective of how the
sheaves and pins fit together inside. 

 

Steve

#312 Peregrine

Seattle

 

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From: listserve-bounces at catalina38.org on behalf of Jay Sorensen
Sent: Tue 1/11/2011 8:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [C38] Halyards

 

Good Morning All,

First, thanks for your help with the salon shelf storage options.  First
mate Dorothy is very happy with the lined baskets on the top shelves and
the extra rail on the bottom. 

Now for the next question trying to save a trip up the mast.  Can anyone
tell me if sheeve box needs to be removed from the masthead to replace
the sheeves?  Or is there a pin that goes all the way through the mast.
Ours is a 1985 model. 

I'm going to 7/16" Sta-Set X halyards and want to remove the combination
sheeves as I'm concerned about the semi-circle indent on the current
version.  7/16" line seems to run smoothly, but I'm not sure about wear.
New sheeves should be cheap insurance.

Thanks!

Jay & Dorothy Sorensen
C-38 #311, Broad Reach
San Diego, CA

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