[C38] Stanchions
D McC
cat38skip at yahoo.com
Wed Jan 26 19:14:25 EST 2011
The inward 'custom bend' of the stanchions on our boats was caused, most likely,
by spinnaker sheets and guys having to make the rather extreme angle back to the
turning blocks at the stern. If a reaching strut were not being used then the
lines hit the stanchions and voile', they attained that jaunty rake that we are
all so familiar with ...
I have had 2 welded as emergency repairs over the years .. and both are still
sporting their scars. Maybe it's time to visit the folks in Upland again. I
dropped in there a few years ago, while visiting relatives in the area, and was
treated to great tour of the facility ...
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>From: Steven Ribble <steve.ribble at gmail.com>
>To: Catalina 38 Listserve <listserve at catalina38.org>
>Sent: Wed, January 26, 2011 8:57:12 AM
>Subject: Re: [C38] Stanchions
>
>Glad you brought this up, Chuck (do you get that a lot....up-chuck? ;) ). When I
>ordered mine I told Mark at Garhauer which stanchion it was (furthest aft on
>each side) because I remembered a past post about the varying angles of our
>stanchions from fore to aft. His response was that their stanchions (and
>supposedly the correct replacement part) were a right angle - 90 degrees.
>
>
>Mine were bent in (and cracked at the bale - everyone should take a look at this
>on their own boats) a couple inches and I had always assumed it was to continue
>the curve of the hull but I gotta say...it's really nice having them straight up
>rather than in the path of your way forward.
>
>
>Steve
>
>
>On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Chuck Finn <charles at finn.ws> wrote:
>
>One way I know it is sailing season is the scrape on my shin obtained as I
>climb from the cabin to the cockpit. The other wound is the bruises on the
>side of both legs as I bang into the stanchions. I love the look of our
>boats, but the design idea that the stanchions should follow the inward bend
>of the tumblehome really does not work for me. There just is not enough
>deck for a guy my size. I am still considering bending and re-welding the
>current stanchions into a vertical position, but perhaps even a better
>solution would be to remove the current stanchions altogether and going with
>a toe rail stanchion like you see on C&C yachts. Rigrite.com has these.
>Attaching stanchions directly to our toerail seems to be a viable option as
>the rail is really heavy duty. Additionally, you can buy the bases and use
>the current tubing assuming it is not the light weight stuff Tom has
>commented on. This would give us a lot more deck space for size 11 feet.
>>Just thinking aloud at this point, but I really am tired of the bruising!
>>
>>Chuck Finn
>>Mighty Quinn #114
>>Great Lakes
>>
>>
>>On 1/25/2011 3:25 PM, Max Soto wrote:
>>Good to know that they share the same foot print... If the removable
>>stanchion's base also fits, I'll go for that one next time..... A little
>>heavier, but if they bend, it will be so much easier to replace.......
>>
>>>Thanks, Max
>>>
>>>
>>>2011/1/25 Steven Ribble <steve.ribble at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>Max, yes...same foot print. Garhauer has a square-ish base that I
>>>think are for removable stanchions and a one that's trapezoidal for
>>>the solid/fixed type, which is what mine are (also characterized by
>>>the "flat top"). I can't speak to the quality comment that Tom
>>>refers to, I just know mine have been on the boat for 30 years and
>>>only needed to be replaced because the over-wintering force exerted
>>>by the shrinkwrap caused them to bend. I thought I saw
>>>reinforced/gate style stanchions on their website, but don't know
>>>about the footprint.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Tom T.
>>>><tdtron at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>After hurricane Dennis (the Menace) skirted Tampa
>>>>>Bay a few years ago with a near miss, we got tangled
>>>>>up with a piling with the surge and had our
>>>>>starboard lifelines damaged along with the
>>>>>stanchions on that side.
>>>>>
>>>>>I replaced the stanchions near the rail at the aft
>>>>>end of the cabin with Catalina Direct stanchions. I
>>>>>replaced both sides so they would match. My boat
>>>>>had standard stanchions and those stanchions should
>>>>>have been the reinforced gate entry types which
>>>>>are heavier and more expensive.
>>>>>
>>>>>I didn't shop Garhauer and I probably should have
>>>>>but the original stanchions were JUNK so anything
>>>>>was an upgrade! The metal in the replacement
>>>>>stanchions was much heavier gage and with the
>>>>>reinforced foot design of the gate type stanchion
>>>>>there was no comparison between quality or strength
>>>>>of the two types.
>>>>>
>>>>>The reason I bring this up is some of our members
>>>>>may have stanchions like the ones I replaced which
>>>>>may be a disaster waiting to happen. If the
>>>>>stanchions at the front of the gate are like the
>>>>>thin, weak ones like I had they could fail. The
>>>>>thin tube original stanchions may be OK for middle
>>>>>of the lifeline mounts but where the gates
>>>>>terminate they are inadequate
>>>>>
>>>>>Tom Troncalli
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: Max Soto
>>>>>>To: Catalina 38 Listserve
>>>>>>Sent: 1/25/2011 12:00:20 PM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [C38] Stanchions
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Steve, do they have the same
footprint???
>>>>>>Regards, max
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sent from my iPod
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:30 AM, Steven Ribble
>>>>>><steve.ribble at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Our stanchions are Garhauer...I replaced a
>>>>>>couple last season...about $50 each.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Max Soto
>>>>>>><maxsoto at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hey Steve,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I'm not surprised if they were made by
>>>>>>>>Garhauer......
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Max
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>2011/1/24 Steve Smolinske
>>>>>>>><SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Does anyone know
>>>>>>>>who made our
>>>>>>>>stanchions?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Steve
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>>>>>>>>C38 #198 ESTANCIA
>>>>>>>>Puntarenas, Costa Rica
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