[C38] (no subject)

Thu May 5 04:28:57 EDT 2011

Steve,
     I have a vague recollection of seeing the mold at Johnnie 
Schumacher's Yankee Yachts operation when the first Yankee 38's were 
being built. It was upside down when I saw it and the hinge was 
somewhere on top. I crewed on Independance, a Blue hulled Yankee 38. It 
was a one tonner. Ted Tuner bought hull number 3. We went to the first 
One Ton World's in San Diego and got hammered. We were last and Ted 
Turner next to last. At the trophy dinner, Ted came over and told us how 
happy he was we were there - otherwise, he would have been last. (the 
boat was way too heavy) John Linsky, my skipper, was a good friend of 
Johnnie Schumacher. When Yankee Yachts shut down, Johnnie sold the mold 
to Frank Butler. It was going to be called the Sparkman Stevens 38 but 
Frank and Olin Stevens got into it over changes Frank made to the hull, 
deck and mast. Frank  lengthened the rudder (and increased it in size 
again later) and changed the aft end of the keel. He changed the flush 
deck of the Yankee to what we have now and did his magic with the 
interior. He made the mast 2 feet higher - his standard change. But thru 
it all, with minor modifications, he used that huge, heavy, expensive 
hinged mold. With the tumble-home that was the only way to do it. You 
can only get so many cupcakes out of one mold. When it came time to 
replace it, Frank stopped making the 38.  Joe Launie/Macavity

On 5/4/2011 10:49 PM, S Orton wrote:
> Joe, Did you actually see the clam shell mold?  If so where was the 
> hinge located?  I would think it would be somewhere below the stub 
> keel.  This discussion makes me feel a lot better about the structural 
> aspect of the  Cat38- it is a one piece hull, not a hull made in 
> halves and butted together with epoxy.  This also confirms why I could 
> never find in the interior a parting line which would result from a 2 
> piece hull.  But a crack that Steve S found on his boat is not good in 
> my opinion.  What caused the cracks?  What is the surrounding 
> material- bondo?  I guess I would of repaired it with glass cloth and 
> epoxy or vinylester down to sound hull material and fair out about 6" 
> all the way around.  When our boat was peeled I don't remember seeing 
> any filler material in that area, so what Steve S saw is very 
> concerning to me.  But this is an ex aero space structural engineer 
> talking and I must remember these boats have existed for 20 plus years 
> and I have never heard of a hull coming apart.
> Cheers, Steve O  (Santa Susanna, #304)
> > Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 20:34:16 -0700
> > From: jlaunie at cox.net
> > To: listserve at catalina38.org
> > Subject: Re: [C38] (no subject)
> >
> > actually, it was a very expensive one piece mold with hinges in the
> > middle. The cost of the mold is the reason they stopped making the 
> boat.
> > Joe Launie, Macavity
> >
> > On 5/4/2011 1:13 PM, Dick Kilroy wrote:
> > > With the reverse transom the boat had to have been made in half's. 
> One
> > > peace would be very hard to get out of the mold.
> > >
> > > Dick
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max Soto" <maxsoto at gmail.com>
> > > To: "Catalina 38 Listserve" <listserve at catalina38.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 10:49 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [C38] (no subject)
> > >
> > >
> > >> Weren't our hulls made in two halves????? Or were the molds????
> > >> While working out some blisters a while ago I noticed somo voids in
> > >> the center line of the hull, right were the crack runs.... Just
> > >> filled it with redin, and leaved it alone.
> > >> I noticed that the hull has what looks like the balsa wood strip
> > >> running down on the center of a surfboard ( but of course, it wasn't
> > >> balsa)... That's were the crack in this pic is located...
> > >>
> > >> Max
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPod
> > >>
> > >> On May 3, 2011, at 23:28, "Steve Smolinske"
> > >> <SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Center line crack
> > >>>
> > >>> <photo.JPG>
> > >>>
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