[C38] hinged mold and Frank Butler

[Don Strong]

Joe: Another great story from the master. Thanks! Don

On 5/5/11 1:28 AM, Joseph Launie wrote:
> Steve,
>     I have a vague recollection of seeing the mold at Johnnie 
> Schumacher's Yankee Yachts operation when the first Yankee 38's were 
> being built. It was upside down when I saw it and the hinge was 
> somewhere on top. I crewed on Independance, a Blue hulled Yankee 38. 
> It was a one tonner. Ted Tuner bought hull number 3. We went to the 
> first One Ton World's in San Diego and got hammered. We were last and 
> Ted Turner next to last. At the trophy dinner, Ted came over and told 
> us how happy he was we were there - otherwise, he would have been 
> last. (the boat was way too heavy) John Linsky, my skipper, was a good 
> friend of Johnnie Schumacher. When Yankee Yachts shut down, Johnnie 
> sold the mold to Frank Butler. It was going to be called the Sparkman 
> Stevens 38 but Frank and Olin Stevens got into it over changes Frank 
> made to the hull, deck and mast. Frank  lengthened the rudder (and 
> increased it in size again later) and changed the aft end of the keel. 
> He changed the flush deck of the Yankee to what we have now and did 
> his magic with the interior. He made the mast 2 feet higher - his 
> standard change. But thru it all, with minor modifications, he used 
> that huge, heavy, expensive hinged mold. With the tumble-home that was 
> the only way to do it. You can only get so many cupcakes out of one 
> mold. When it came time to replace it, Frank stopped making the 38.  
> Joe Launie/Macavity
>
> On 5/4/2011 10:49 PM, S Orton wrote:
>> Joe, Did you actually see the clam shell mold?  If so where was the 
>> hinge located?  I would think it would be somewhere below the stub 
>> keel.  This discussion makes me feel a lot better about the 
>> structural aspect of the  Cat38- it is a one piece hull, not a hull 
>> made in halves and butted together with epoxy.  This also confirms 
>> why I could never find in the interior a parting line which would 
>> result from a 2 piece hull.  But a crack that Steve S found on his 
>> boat is not good in my opinion.  What caused the cracks?  What is the 
>> surrounding material- bondo?  I guess I would of repaired it with 
>> glass cloth and epoxy or vinylester down to sound hull material and 
>> fair out about 6" all the way around.  When our boat was peeled I 
>> don't remember seeing any filler material in that area, so what Steve 
>> S saw is very concerning to me.  But this is an ex aero space 
>> structural engineer talking and I must remember these boats have 
>> existed for 20 plus years and I have never heard of a hull coming apart.
>> Cheers, Steve O  (Santa Susanna, #304)
>> > Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 20:34:16 -0700
>> > From: jlaunie at cox.net
>> > To: listserve at catalina38.org
>> > Subject: Re: [C38] (no subject)
>> >
>> > actually, it was a very expensive one piece mold with hinges in the
>> > middle. The cost of the mold is the reason they stopped making the 
>> boat.
>> > Joe Launie, Macavity
>> >
>> > On 5/4/2011 1:13 PM, Dick Kilroy wrote:
>> > > With the reverse transom the boat had to have been made in 
>> half's. One
>> > > peace would be very hard to get out of the mold.
>> > >
>> > > Dick
>> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max Soto" <maxsoto at gmail.com>
>> > > To: "Catalina 38 Listserve" <listserve at catalina38.org>
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 10:49 AM
>> > > Subject: Re: [C38] (no subject)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> Weren't our hulls made in two halves????? Or were the molds????
>> > >> While working out some blisters a while ago I noticed somo voids in
>> > >> the center line of the hull, right were the crack runs.... Just
>> > >> filled it with redin, and leaved it alone.
>> > >> I noticed that the hull has what looks like the balsa wood strip
>> > >> running down on the center of a surfboard ( but of course, it 
>> wasn't
>> > >> balsa)... That's were the crack in this pic is located...
>> > >>
>> > >> Max
>> > >>
>> > >> Sent from my iPod
>> > >>
>> > >> On May 3, 2011, at 23:28, "Steve Smolinske"
>> > >> <SSmolinske at rainierrubber.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Center line crack
>> > >>>
>> > >>> <photo.JPG>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Steve Smolinske
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone
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Donald R. Strong
Professor
Dept. of Evolution and Ecology
University of California, Davis 95616

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