[C38] Customized access openings from engine compartment on back
Joseph Launie
jlaunie at cox.net
Thu May 19 15:23:20 EDT 2011
Marci,
We cut out huge areas for our electric winches. We used a cordless
Makita jig saw after shutting off the shore power. I think a circular
saw would be too hard to control. Joe Launie/MACAVITY
On 5/19/2011 9:00 AM, Marci Brown wrote:
>
> I'd love to compare our boat's access areas to everyone else's -
> before we start cutting. I'm going to take some photos and post them
> next week. What's the best power tool to use to cut through the
> fiberglass when creating new access panel areas? A cordless circular
> saw set for a shallow depth?
>
> *Marci J. Brown*
>
> PO Box 520549, Winthrop, MA 02152 USA
>
> *Ph:* 757-502-7422 | *Email:* mb at seafor.us <mailto:mb at seafor.us>
>
> *From:* Max Soto [mailto:maxsoto at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 19, 2011 11:12 AM
> *To:* Larrypi at roadrunner.com; Catalina 38 Listserve
> *Subject:* Re: [C38] Mysterious stuffing box behavior
>
> Larry,
>
> I have exactly the same locker as Hassle.
>
> Max
>
> 2011/5/19 Larry Malmberg <Larrypi at roadrunner.com
> <mailto:Larrypi at roadrunner.com>>
>
> I'm confused too Max. Our port locker in the cockpit (sail locker?)
> is open all the way to the hull except for a step where the start
> battery is located, the step has a shelf for storage where we keep
> extra oil and coolant, there is a large access to the engine
> compartment there as well, kind of T shaped.
>
>
> Larry Malmberg
>
> Team Hassle
>
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> *From:* listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
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> [mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org
> <mailto:listserve-bounces at catalina38.org>] *On Behalf Of *Max Soto
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 19, 2011 7:52 AM
> *To:* tdtron at earthlink.net <mailto:tdtron at earthlink.net>; Catalina 38
> Listserve
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [C38] Mysterious stuffing box behavior
>
> I don't know if it is just me, but this locker is totally different
> than mine... I remember seeing this pics years ago, but still today ,
> I can't figure it out, and my only explanation is that the
> modification was very big and I didn't get that, or that (this is
> getting common!) there are two different kind of lockers. Mine goes
> all the way to the hull, and has a liner with no anti skid pattern..
>
> How about other boats??????
>
> I need to install a generator behind the engine, so the room I can
> make for myself, the better!
>
> Regards,
>
> Max
>
> 2011/6/18 tdtron at earthlink.net <mailto:tdtron at earthlink.net>
> <tdtron at earthlink.net <mailto:tdtron at earthlink.net>>
>
> Dan,
>
> While mentioning the sail locker cutout, you reminded me that I came
> across a couple of old photos of my locker cutout which I have
> attached. The holes on the engine side of the locker were left over
> from the previous owner's hot water heater which I moved to the engine
> aft of the transmission. That location was not possible before the
> sail locker modification.
>
> The cutout is supported by angle aluminum bolted with countersunk #10
> stainless bolts and nylock nuts. The four screw heads in the first
> photo are holding my pressure water pump up side down between the hull
> and sail locker bottom. We found that location to be a very quiet
> place for the pump and after the sail locker cutout modification, that
> location also became easy to service, another previously wasted
> unaccessible area.
>
> On the sail locker cutout, I did add a vertical brace between the
> forward inside corner of the cutout and the hull. I bedded a piece of
> pressure treated wood to the hull and made a support of aluminum angle
> connected to the perimeter aluminum angle which made the floor of the
> sail locker very stiff and strong.
>
> Of all of the modifications I made to my 38, I think this was the most
> practical and best.
>
> Tom Troncalli
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:*
>
> *To: *Catalina 38 Listserve <mailto:listserve at catalina38.org>
>
> *Sent:* 5/18/2011 12:40:01 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [C38] Mysterious stuffing box behavior
>
> Marci, We bought our boat in Rhode Island and last year did the
> opposite trip you are doing. We brought it to the Chesapeake Bay.
> We Had a situation that may be close to yours.
>
> We had 5 total crew and was motor sailing hard in Long Island
> Sound to try to get to the East River to catch the tide right. We
> heard water splashing around and the quarter berth was getting wet
> (we have an opening there to get to the back of the engine, not
> sure all Catalina's have it). There was a lot of water under the
> engine and the spinning shaft was splashing it around. When the
> shaft wasn't spinning there was no splashing.
>
> Before starting our adventure I got a lot of information from the
> C38 website, most importantly the leaking stuffing box on the
> rudder post. Below the front of the engine there is a drain hole
> that allows water to drain from under the engine to the bilge.
> Ours was clogged up and allowed the build up of water under the
> engine and the shaft to splash it around. When running hard and
> even sailing fast the rudder post will let in a lot of water
> because the stern is squatted down.
>
> Check under the front of the engine and make sure that hole is
> clear. I think you will find that to be your problem as well as a
> rudder post leak.
>
> I still have to fix mine. I'm going to cut out the sail locker
> bottom as suggested on the C38 website to gain access to the
> rudder post.
>
> Dan #108
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Max Soto" <maxsoto at gmail.com <mailto:maxsoto at gmail.com>>
> To: "Catalina 38 Listserve" <listserve at catalina38.org
> <mailto:listserve at catalina38.org>>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 11:35:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [C38] Mysterious stuffing box behavior
>
> Marci,
>
> I guess that the shaft was spinning while sailing with the
> transmission in neutral. I'll check the packing gland and also
> check for movement of the stuffing box while running with the
> engine, it should denote problems like the ones you just mentioned...
>
> Hope this helps..
>
> Max Soto
> C38 #198 ESTANCIA
>
> Puntarenas, Costa Rica
>
> 2011/5/18 Marci Brown <mb at seafor.us <mailto:mb at seafor.us>>
>
> A troubling stuffing box situation began last week (and
> continues): We ran the engine reasonably hard for about 4 hours
> when doing the NYC East River trek to Long Island Sound. I was in
> the galley when Keith raised the sails and cut the engine (leaving
> transmission in neutral). Immediately I heard water pouring into
> the boat from the stuffing box area. I shouted for Keith to throw
> the transmission into reverse. No more water! Whew! Water quickly
> exited the boat via bilge pump - with the exception of 10 gallons
> sitting under the engine that I had to pump out by hand.
> Diagnostic guesstimate #1: New zincs on the prop shaft causing
> wobble that is stressing the 2-year old flax packing gland...
> right? The cutlass bearing is fine. Other thoughts: Folding prop
> has inherent balance issues, engine/transmission/prop shaft
> alignment fine tuning necessary, packing glands wear out quickly
> under stress?? Would anyone like to tackle this one?
>
> *Marci J. Brown*
>
> PO Box 520549, Winthrop, MA 02152 USA
>
> *Ph:* 757-515-3151 | *Email:* mb at seafor.us <mailto:mb at seafor.us>
>
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