[C38] Mysterious stuffing box behavior

Fri May 20 15:08:29 EDT 2011

Thanks Max Now I just have to decide where I want the starter battery.

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Max Soto <maxsoto at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hard?? Is too easy! Just move the battery, send the positive wire to the
> same stud on the back of your battery switch, you might be needing a larger
> one, but who knows, maybe the original will fit. Then attach a wire from the
> negative post to the engine block, and you can also run a  wire from the
> negative post of one bank to the other.
> By doing all these, you can add one more battery to the house bank in front
> of the galley.
> Hope this helps!
> Max
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On May 19, 2011, at 9:31, William Knowles <whk1965 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have the same locker also. I have a little door from behind the ice chest
> for trash. How hard is it to put the starter battery there? Did you wire it
> through the main panel?
>
> Bill
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Max Soto < <maxsoto at gmail.com>
> maxsoto at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Larry,
>>
>>  I have exactly the same locker as Hassle.
>>
>> Max
>>
>> 2011/5/19 Larry Malmberg < <Larrypi at roadrunner.com>Larrypi at roadrunner.com
>> >
>>
>>>  I'm confused too Max.  Our port locker in the cockpit (sail locker?) is
>>> open all the way to the hull except for a step where the start battery is
>>> located, the step has a shelf for storage where we keep extra oil and
>>> coolant, there is a large access to the engine compartment there as well,
>>> kind of T shaped.
>>>
>>>
>>> Larry Malmberg
>>> Team Hassle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> *From:* <listserve-bounces at catalina38.org>
>>> listserve-bounces at catalina38.org [mailto:<listserve-bounces at catalina38.org>
>>> listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] *On Behalf Of *Max Soto
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 19, 2011 7:52 AM
>>> *To:* <tdtron at earthlink.net>tdtron at earthlink.net; Catalina 38 Listserve
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [C38] Mysterious stuffing box behavior
>>>
>>> I don't know if it is just me, but this locker is totally different than
>>> mine... I remember seeing this pics years ago, but still today , I can't
>>> figure it out, and my only explanation is that the modification was very big
>>> and I didn't get that, or that  (this is getting common!) there are two
>>> different kind of lockers. Mine goes all the way to the hull, and has a
>>> liner with no  anti skid pattern..
>>> How about other boats??????
>>> I need to install a generator behind the engine, so the room I can make
>>> for myself, the better!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Max
>>>
>>> 2011/6/18 <tdtron at earthlink.net>tdtron at earthlink.net <<tdtron at earthlink.net>
>>> tdtron at earthlink.net>
>>>
>>>>  Dan,
>>>>
>>>> While mentioning the sail locker cutout, you reminded me that I came
>>>> across a couple of old photos of my locker cutout which I have attached.
>>>> The holes on the engine side of the locker were left over from the previous
>>>> owner's hot water heater which I moved to the engine aft of the
>>>> transmission.  That location was not possible before the sail locker
>>>> modification.
>>>>
>>>> The cutout is supported by angle aluminum bolted with countersunk #10
>>>> stainless bolts and nylock nuts.  The four screw heads in the first photo
>>>> are holding my pressure water pump up side down between the hull and sail
>>>> locker bottom.  We found that location to be a very quiet place for the pump
>>>> and after the sail locker cutout modification, that location also became
>>>> easy to service, another previously wasted unaccessible area.
>>>>
>>>> On the sail locker cutout, I did add a vertical brace between the
>>>> forward inside corner of the cutout and the hull.  I bedded a piece of
>>>> pressure treated wood to the hull and made a support of aluminum angle
>>>> connected to the perimeter aluminum angle which made the floor of the sail
>>>> locker very stiff and strong.
>>>>
>>>> Of all of the modifications I made to my 38, I think this was the most
>>>> practical and best.
>>>>
>>>> Tom Troncalli
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> *From:* <dmills3 at comcast.net>
>>>> *To: *Catalina 38 Listserve <listserve at catalina38.org>
>>>> *Sent:* 5/18/2011 12:40:01 PM
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [C38] Mysterious stuffing box behavior
>>>>
>>>>  Marci, We bought our boat in Rhode Island and last year did the
>>>> opposite trip you are doing. We brought it to the Chesapeake Bay. We Had a
>>>> situation that may be close to yours.
>>>>
>>>> We had 5 total crew and was motor sailing hard in Long Island Sound to
>>>> try to get to the East River to catch the tide right. We heard water
>>>> splashing around and the quarter berth was getting wet (we have an opening
>>>> there to get to the back of the engine, not sure all Catalina's have it).
>>>> There was a lot of water under the engine and the spinning shaft was
>>>> splashing it around. When the shaft wasn't spinning there was no splashing.
>>>>
>>>> Before starting our adventure I got a lot of information from the C38
>>>> website, most importantly the leaking stuffing box on the rudder post. Below
>>>> the front of the engine there is a drain hole that allows water to drain
>>>> from under the engine to the bilge. Ours was clogged up and allowed the
>>>> build up of water under the engine and the shaft to splash it around. When
>>>> running hard and even sailing fast the rudder post will let in a lot of
>>>> water because the stern is squatted down.
>>>>
>>>> Check under the front of the engine and make sure that hole is clear. I
>>>> think you will find that to be your problem as well as a rudder post leak.
>>>>
>>>> I still have to fix mine. I'm going to cut out the sail locker bottom as
>>>> suggested on the C38 website to gain access to the rudder post.
>>>>
>>>> Dan #108
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Max Soto" < <maxsoto at gmail.com>maxsoto at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Catalina 38 Listserve" < <listserve at catalina38.org>
>>>> listserve at catalina38.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 11:35:51 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [C38] Mysterious stuffing box behavior
>>>>
>>>> Marci,
>>>>  I guess that the shaft was spinning while sailing with the transmission
>>>> in neutral. I'll check the packing gland and also check for movement of the
>>>> stuffing box while running with the engine, it should denote problems like
>>>> the ones you just mentioned...
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps..
>>>>
>>>> Max Soto
>>>> C38 #198 ESTANCIA
>>>> Puntarenas, Costa Rica
>>>>
>>>> 2011/5/18 Marci Brown < <mb at seafor.us>mb at seafor.us>
>>>>
>>>>>  A troubling stuffing box situation began last week (and continues):
>>>>> We ran the engine reasonably hard for about 4 hours when doing the NYC East
>>>>> River trek to Long Island Sound. I was in the galley when Keith raised the
>>>>> sails and cut the engine (leaving transmission in neutral). Immediately I
>>>>> heard water pouring into the boat from the stuffing box area. I shouted for
>>>>> Keith to throw the transmission into reverse. No more water! Whew! Water
>>>>> quickly exited the boat via bilge pump - with the exception of 10 gallons
>>>>> sitting under the engine that I had to pump out by hand. Diagnostic
>>>>> guesstimate #1: New zincs on the prop shaft causing wobble that is stressing
>>>>> the 2-year old flax packing gland... right? The cutlass bearing is fine.
>>>>> Other thoughts: Folding prop has inherent balance issues,
>>>>> engine/transmission/prop shaft alignment fine tuning necessary, packing
>>>>> glands wear out quickly under stress?? Would anyone like to tackle this one?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Marci J. Brown*
>>>>>
>>>>> PO Box 520549, Winthrop, MA 02152 USA
>>>>>
>>>>> *Ph:* 757-515-3151 | *Email:* mb at seafor.us
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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