[C38] Mysterious stuffing box behavior

Fri May 20 15:51:03 EDT 2011

Bill,
I have it on the same location as Larry...

2011/5/20 William Knowles <whk1965 at gmail.com>

> Thanks Max Now I just have to decide where I want the starter battery.
>
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Max Soto <maxsoto at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hard?? Is too easy! Just move the battery, send the positive wire to the
>> same stud on the back of your battery switch, you might be needing a larger
>> one, but who knows, maybe the original will fit. Then attach a wire from the
>> negative post to the engine block, and you can also run a  wire from the
>> negative post of one bank to the other.
>> By doing all these, you can add one more battery to the house bank in
>> front of the galley.
>> Hope this helps!
>> Max
>>
>> Sent from my iPod
>>
>> On May 19, 2011, at 9:31, William Knowles <whk1965 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have the same locker also. I have a little door from behind the ice
>> chest for trash. How hard is it to put the starter battery there? Did you
>> wire it through the main panel?
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Max Soto < <maxsoto at gmail.com>
>> maxsoto at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Larry,
>>>
>>>  I have exactly the same locker as Hassle.
>>>
>>> Max
>>>
>>> 2011/5/19 Larry Malmberg < <Larrypi at roadrunner.com>
>>> Larrypi at roadrunner.com>
>>>
>>>>  I'm confused too Max.  Our port locker in the cockpit (sail locker?)
>>>> is open all the way to the hull except for a step where the start battery is
>>>> located, the step has a shelf for storage where we keep extra oil and
>>>> coolant, there is a large access to the engine compartment there as well,
>>>> kind of T shaped.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Larry Malmberg
>>>> Team Hassle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> *From:* <listserve-bounces at catalina38.org>
>>>> listserve-bounces at catalina38.org [mailto:<listserve-bounces at catalina38.org>
>>>> listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] *On Behalf Of *Max Soto
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 19, 2011 7:52 AM
>>>> *To:* <tdtron at earthlink.net>tdtron at earthlink.net; Catalina 38 Listserve
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [C38] Mysterious stuffing box behavior
>>>>
>>>> I don't know if it is just me, but this locker is totally different than
>>>> mine... I remember seeing this pics years ago, but still today , I can't
>>>> figure it out, and my only explanation is that the modification was very big
>>>> and I didn't get that, or that  (this is getting common!) there are two
>>>> different kind of lockers. Mine goes all the way to the hull, and has a
>>>> liner with no  anti skid pattern..
>>>> How about other boats??????
>>>> I need to install a generator behind the engine, so the room I can make
>>>> for myself, the better!
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Max
>>>>
>>>> 2011/6/18 <tdtron at earthlink.net>tdtron at earthlink.net <<tdtron at earthlink.net>
>>>> tdtron at earthlink.net>
>>>>
>>>>>  Dan,
>>>>>
>>>>> While mentioning the sail locker cutout, you reminded me that I came
>>>>> across a couple of old photos of my locker cutout which I have attached.
>>>>> The holes on the engine side of the locker were left over from the previous
>>>>> owner's hot water heater which I moved to the engine aft of the
>>>>> transmission.  That location was not possible before the sail locker
>>>>> modification.
>>>>>
>>>>> The cutout is supported by angle aluminum bolted with countersunk #10
>>>>> stainless bolts and nylock nuts.  The four screw heads in the first photo
>>>>> are holding my pressure water pump up side down between the hull and sail
>>>>> locker bottom.  We found that location to be a very quiet place for the pump
>>>>> and after the sail locker cutout modification, that location also became
>>>>> easy to service, another previously wasted unaccessible area.
>>>>>
>>>>> On the sail locker cutout, I did add a vertical brace between the
>>>>> forward inside corner of the cutout and the hull.  I bedded a piece of
>>>>> pressure treated wood to the hull and made a support of aluminum angle
>>>>> connected to the perimeter aluminum angle which made the floor of the sail
>>>>> locker very stiff and strong.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of all of the modifications I made to my 38, I think this was the most
>>>>> practical and best.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom Troncalli
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> *From:* <dmills3 at comcast.net>
>>>>> *To: *Catalina 38 Listserve <listserve at catalina38.org>
>>>>> *Sent:* 5/18/2011 12:40:01 PM
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [C38] Mysterious stuffing box behavior
>>>>>
>>>>>  Marci, We bought our boat in Rhode Island and last year did the
>>>>> opposite trip you are doing. We brought it to the Chesapeake Bay. We Had a
>>>>> situation that may be close to yours.
>>>>>
>>>>> We had 5 total crew and was motor sailing hard in Long Island Sound to
>>>>> try to get to the East River to catch the tide right. We heard water
>>>>> splashing around and the quarter berth was getting wet (we have an opening
>>>>> there to get to the back of the engine, not sure all Catalina's have it).
>>>>> There was a lot of water under the engine and the spinning shaft was
>>>>> splashing it around. When the shaft wasn't spinning there was no splashing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Before starting our adventure I got a lot of information from the C38
>>>>> website, most importantly the leaking stuffing box on the rudder post. Below
>>>>> the front of the engine there is a drain hole that allows water to drain
>>>>> from under the engine to the bilge. Ours was clogged up and allowed the
>>>>> build up of water under the engine and the shaft to splash it around. When
>>>>> running hard and even sailing fast the rudder post will let in a lot of
>>>>> water because the stern is squatted down.
>>>>>
>>>>> Check under the front of the engine and make sure that hole is clear. I
>>>>> think you will find that to be your problem as well as a rudder post leak.
>>>>>
>>>>> I still have to fix mine. I'm going to cut out the sail locker bottom
>>>>> as suggested on the C38 website to gain access to the rudder post.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan #108
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Max Soto" < <maxsoto at gmail.com>maxsoto at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Catalina 38 Listserve" < <listserve at catalina38.org>
>>>>> listserve at catalina38.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 11:35:51 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [C38] Mysterious stuffing box behavior
>>>>>
>>>>> Marci,
>>>>>  I guess that the shaft was spinning while sailing with the
>>>>> transmission in neutral. I'll check the packing gland and also check for
>>>>> movement of the stuffing box while running with the engine, it should denote
>>>>> problems like the ones you just mentioned...
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps..
>>>>>
>>>>> Max Soto
>>>>> C38 #198 ESTANCIA
>>>>> Puntarenas, Costa Rica
>>>>>
>>>>> 2011/5/18 Marci Brown < <mb at seafor.us>mb at seafor.us>
>>>>>
>>>>>>  A troubling stuffing box situation began last week (and continues):
>>>>>> We ran the engine reasonably hard for about 4 hours when doing the NYC East
>>>>>> River trek to Long Island Sound. I was in the galley when Keith raised the
>>>>>> sails and cut the engine (leaving transmission in neutral). Immediately I
>>>>>> heard water pouring into the boat from the stuffing box area. I shouted for
>>>>>> Keith to throw the transmission into reverse. No more water! Whew! Water
>>>>>> quickly exited the boat via bilge pump - with the exception of 10 gallons
>>>>>> sitting under the engine that I had to pump out by hand. Diagnostic
>>>>>> guesstimate #1: New zincs on the prop shaft causing wobble that is stressing
>>>>>> the 2-year old flax packing gland... right? The cutlass bearing is fine.
>>>>>> Other thoughts: Folding prop has inherent balance issues,
>>>>>> engine/transmission/prop shaft alignment fine tuning necessary, packing
>>>>>> glands wear out quickly under stress?? Would anyone like to tackle this one?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Marci J. Brown*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PO Box 520549, Winthrop, MA 02152 USA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Ph:* 757-515-3151 | *Email:* mb at seafor.us
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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