[C38] How to approach an argument with a sailor

[david at dlrfilms.com]

Don't tell that to these guys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQX_PEZsLjA

> I sail a Catalina 38 and reached 12 to 14 knots sailing from Benecia to
> Berkeley.  The reason for the speed is an ebb current at 6 knots.
> There is no way a displacement vessel can reach greater than their
> calculated hull speed.  When one exceeds hull speed they are unduly
> stressing their rig...which might come down.  What a shame for being
> stupid.
> Patrick
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <david at dlrfilms.com>
> To: "Catalina 38 Listserve" <listserve at catalina38.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 5:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [C38] How to approach an argument with a sailor
>
>
>> Not too long ago I saw a video of a CAL 40 running offshore in a big
>> wind
>> with a heavy kite. They were sustaining over 15 kts and hitting high
>> teens.
>>
>> Does the Santa Crus 37 plane? If it does, 15-20 kts wouldn't be
>> outrageous.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Advice seeking time.
>>>
>>> So, I've got a friend who sails on a VERY fast boat. A very winning
>>> boat. Probably one of the fastest in San Francisco. It's crewed by a
>>> bunch of amazing sailors including some Cup guys. However, she's not
>>> really a sailor and I've had to explain things like what a knot is vs
>>> mph. The boat is a Santa Cruz 37 rates in a 27PHRF. Now, she claims and
>>> has some text messages from other crew saying they've hit 26knots in
>>> the
>>> bay. I call BS. I pull out all my math on hull speed, plain force
>>> calculations on what it would take to make that boat go into full
>>> plane.
>>> I've tried showing what PHRF means and that a 27 means they only
>>> average
>>> 1/2 knot faster than the J/105's. I've tried pulling out their race
>>> times and showing they're only averaging about 6-7knots during races. .
>>> This does not matter.
>>>
>>>   Probably most of us have seen exceedences in hull speed for our boats
>>> going down waves and whatnot. However, that's not the claim. The claim
>>> is they REGULARLY go 16-20 knots in bay races. This is 2x or more their
>>> hull speed. .
>>>
>>> Thoughts on how to explain this or anyone have experience with a SC37?
>>>
>>> Anders
>>>
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