[C38] Listserve Digest, Vol 7, Issue 894

PAUL NOTTE panotte at shaw.ca
Fri Dec 2 05:16:40 EST 2011 

If not bearings , why not a couple of grease fittings? I added grease fittings
To another boat I had  . Yes I had to don my wet suit to grease but it worked
Well . Thoughts ? 
Paul
Impulse 328

----- Original Message -----
From: Glenn Walters <bluenoseyachts at gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, December 1, 2011 5:22 am
Subject: Re: [C38] Listserve Digest, Vol 7, Issue 894
To: listserve at catalina38.org

> Hard to believe that someone has not added rudder bearings.
> 
> I am planning  to do so with a new rudder and shaft.  
> Seems doable in
> theory but if I can avoid reinventing  the "wheel " so to 
> speak that would
> be nice.
> 
> Glenn
> POIA #13
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> Launie)>   2. Re: Autohelm parts (MB Contact)
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> > Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 18:42:55 -0800
> > From: Joseph Launie <jlaunie at cox.net>
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> > Glenn,
> >     A boatyard owner friend of mine added 
> Harken bearings to the rudder
> > shaft of his Wilderness 40. I helped install them. He had to 
> remove them
> > later. Joe
> >
> > On 11/30/2011 1:21 PM, Glenn Walters 401 855 4355 wrote:
> > > Does anyone have experience in modifying and adding rudder 
> bearings> > rather than the standard bushings?
> > >
> > > thanks
> > > Glenn Walters
> > > POIA hull #13
> > >
> > > On 11/29/2011 8:55 PM, listserve-request at catalina38.org wrote:
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> > >>     1. Re: Quadrant or Radial Wheel 
> Drive (Max Soto)
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> > >> Message: 1
> > >> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 13:47:06 -0600
> > >> From: Max Soto<maxsoto at gmail.com>
> > >> To: Catalina 38 Listserve<listserve at catalina38.org>,
> > >>     mwlewis at comcast.net
> > >> Subject: Re: [C38] Quadrant or Radial Wheel Drive
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> <CAMenP9MnAYgZB3Hsm5Hj9vZ6Z05UF1F2O5Kwutexjj1vq727zw at mail.gmail.com>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > >>
> > >> Hey Mark,
> > >> Here a re a few pics from the engine room and the 
> lazarette. There is no
> > >> cut out, because never had anything separating the 
> lazarette from engine
> > >> room. You'll have to remove yours in order to accommodate 
> the radial
> > >> wheel.
> > >> The rudder obviously has been removed, so you can see the packing
> > >> gland and
> > >> the piece of wood that works as rudder stop.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Also, the void in my hull between the rudder post and the 
> strut location
> > >> was just filled with foam and fiberglased, so water coming 
> from the
> > >> rudder
> > >> gland will go right to the bilge without accumulating in 
> the engine
> > >> room.
> > >> Hopefully, the humidity in this area will drop a lot.
> > >> These areas are the most neglected by myself on Estancia, 
> but I just
> > >> started working on them, hopefully they'll look great in a 
> few weeks.
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Max
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 2011/11/25 Mark Lewis<mwlewis at comcast.net>
> > >>
> > >>> Steve,****
> > >>>
> > >>> ** **
> > >>>
> > >>> It looks like there is barely room for an 8" radial.  
> Does your boat
> > >>> have
> > >>> a cutout in the rear lazerrette to accommodate it?  
> See pics of my
> > >>> boat.**
> > >>> **
> > >>>
> > >>> ** **
> > >>>
> > >>> Mark****
> > >>>
> > >>> ** **
> > >>>
> > >>> *From:* listserve-bounces at catalina38.org [mailto:
> > >>> listserve-bounces at catalina38.org] *On Behalf Of *Steve Smolinske
> > >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:18 PM
> > >>> *To:* Catalina 38 Listserve
> > >>> *Subject:* [C38] Quadrant or Radial Wheel Drive****
> > >>>
> > >>> ** **
> > >>>
> > >>> Just a technical note for everyone, our boats came 
> installed with a
> > >>> radial
> > >>> wheel drive, that is the circular aluminum piece mounted 
> to the
> > >>> rudder post
> > >>> that the cable runs around and terminates at the 
> tightening ubolts.   A
> > >>> quadrant is an aluminum piece shaped like a piece of pie that
> > >>> attaches to
> > >>> the rudder post and does the same thing.
> > >>> http://www.edsonmarine.com/support/wheel_conversion/pdfs/S-
> 936.pdf> >>> (link
> > >>> to Edson Catalina 38 diagram) and
> > >>>
> > 
> http://www.edsonmarine.com/marinestore/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=287> >>> (link
> > >>> to a picture showing both) ****
> > >>>
> > >>>   ****
> > >>>
> > >>> Steve****
> > >>>
> > >>> #312 Peregrine****
> > >>>
> > >>> Seattle****
> > >>>
> > >>>   ****
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> > Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 21:18:59 -0500
> > From: MB Contact <mixedbusinesscontact at gmail.com>
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> > Subject: Re: [C38] Autohelm parts
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> > Hey all...
> >
> > Speaking of auto helms .... Does any one have any Autohelm 
> ST4000 parts?
> > My wheel drive actuator went up. Well, it started slipping, 
> and then in a
> > blow one of the internal roller ring posts snapped off and 
> caused one of
> > the rollers to rattle around inside the wheel ring unit...basically
> > disabling my steering completely. (was fun pulling the ring 
> and the wheel
> > off to ditch the whole thing while underway!) anyway, my 
> control head and
> > power supply work just fine..., and up till about 10mins ago 
> the actuator
> > motor did too (stupid me pulled the motor off the ring only to 
> see the
> > internal gears go flying...guess I can put that back 
> together)... but my
> > wheel drive actuator is beyond repair. so I'm looking for a 
> wheel drive
> > actuator ring, either with a motor, or with out.
> >
> > Anyone got a box of parts laying around? Or know where I might 
> find one?
> > Do I really have to get a whole new system?
> >
> > Mark
> > Momentous #230
> >
> > Oh yea btw... Found a nice canvas guy in Baltimore that just 
> did a custom
> > dodger for me, and is working on a complete bikini and 
> connector too. Good
> > price, very accommodating guy. Charm City marine Canvas. 
> Thought I'd pass
> > it along.
> >
> > Hey Phil Gay... A big thanks to you for sending me pics of 
> your dodger...
> > They helped me design mine. Pic attached.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Nov 30, 2011, at 2:23 PM, Max Soto <maxsoto at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >  I have the Type 1 (12in stroke), so as Davd pointed 
> out,  a small
> > modification might be needed to the rudder stops, in order to 
> make it work,
> > but not that big of a project.....
> > > I was planning to install it directly to the radial wheel, 
> with only a
> > 8" radius instead of the 10" tiller arm, but still it should 
> work.. I hope!
> > >  This unit came with  a complete Autohelm ST6000 
> autopilot, but is that
> > old  (around 20years), that is not NMEA compatible, and 
> that's why I want
> > to remove the wheel pitlot assembly and install it with the ST4000+
> > display. Despite what RM support said, now I find it really 
> hard to make it
> > work like this, but I'll give it a try. As Tom said, the wheel 
> pilot is
> > very easy for connections and maintenance, but despite the patented
> > Troncalli's shock cord solution (which BTW works great most of 
> the time!!),
> > the wheel pilot slips when the wind is blowing hard and the 
> weatherhelm> increases...... So the linear drive should be more 
> reliable...> >  I've heard great comments about the Nexus 
> and Simrad/ Robertson, but
> > because of the price, they are out of the question. If I don't 
> make the
> > linear drive work, I'll stick with the wheel pilot, or maybe 
> I'll just
> > install both autopilots, hopefully, the new 20 years old 
> ST6000 might work
> > and I'll have a very good back up.
> > >
> > > Have someone installed any brand of drive unit directly to 
> the radial
> > wheel??? Edson used to reccomed it, but  years ago, they 
> changed their
> > mind, started reccommending the tiller arms that they started 
> producing.> >
> > > Regards,
> > > Max
> > >
> > > 2011/11/29 David Epstein <davidepstein at earthlink.net>
> > > Max,
> > >
> > > Do you know if it is a Type 1 (12 in stroke) or a Type1L (16 
> in stroke)?
> >  If it is a Type 1, my notes indicate that it rated for 
> up to a 22,000 lb
> > boat, requires a 10" tiller arm, and it has a maximum of +/-35 
> degrees of
> > rudder travel.   The 1L is good up to 33,000 lbs, 
> requires a 16" tiller arm
> > as is also limited to +/-35 degrees.
> > >
> > > SuperStar's rudder has about 90 degrees of travel (+/-45), 
> so if your
> > boat has similar range, you may have to modify your stops on 
> each side so
> > that you don't have a problem when the linear drive is in 
> bypass.  I would
> > think you could be able to make the Raymarine unit work on a 38.
> > >
> > > When I did my research, I concluded that the absolute best 
> solution for
> > SuperStar would be the Nexus/ComNav HP-40 integrated linear 
> drive (or the
> > AP-23 with a separate pump), as it is fast, powerful and has 
> up to +/-50
> > degrees of travel with the specified tiller arm length.  
> I have not yet
> > purchased a Nexus drive unit, so I can't tell you about any 
> firsthand> results...
> > >
> > > David Epstein
> > > SuperStar, #122
> > > Marina del Rey, CA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 12:23 PM 11/29/2011, you wrote:
> > >> I got a new one of this for free, and according to 
> Raymarine Support,
> >  it can be installed with my ST400+ wheel pilot display.
> > >>
> > >> Does anyone has installed one of this below deck drives on 
> a C38 ?? If
> > so, any installation pics or recommendations will be appreciated!
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Max Soto
> > >> C38 #198 ESTANCIA
> > >> Puntarenas, Costa Rica
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> > >
> > > --
> > > Max Soto
> > > C38 #198 ESTANCIA
> > > Puntarenas, Costa Rica
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