[C38] Autohelm parts

Thu Dec 1 09:42:42 EST 2011

MB,

Nice dodger, please send vendor name and price if you don't mind.  RE
ST4000.  There is a salvage yard here on west coast called Minney's in Costa
Mesa.  You can find them on the web.  They have some of everything, and it's
a question of finding it at the right time.  Call them and they can tell you
if they have anything.

Mark

Bluewater #6

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Subject: Re: [C38] Autohelm parts

Hey all...

Speaking of auto helms .... Does any one have any Autohelm ST4000 parts? My
wheel drive actuator went up. Well, it started slipping, and then in a blow
one of the internal roller ring posts snapped off and caused one of the
rollers to rattle around inside the wheel ring unit...basically disabling my
steering completely. (was fun pulling the ring and the wheel off to ditch
the whole thing while underway!) anyway, my control head and power supply
work just fine..., and up till about 10mins ago the actuator motor did too
(stupid me pulled the motor off the ring only to see the internal gears go
flying...guess I can put that back together)... but my wheel drive actuator
is beyond repair. so I'm looking for a wheel drive actuator ring, either
with a motor, or with out.

Anyone got a box of parts laying around? Or know where I might find one? Do
I really have to get a whole new system?

Mark

Momentous #230

Oh yea btw... Found a nice canvas guy in Baltimore that just did a custom
dodger for me, and is working on a complete bikini and connector too. Good
price, very accommodating guy. Charm City marine Canvas. Thought I'd pass it
along.

Hey Phil Gay... A big thanks to you for sending me pics of your dodger...
They helped me design mine. Pic attached.

image.jpeg

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 30, 2011, at 2:23 PM, Max Soto <maxsoto at gmail.com> wrote:

 I have the Type 1 (12in stroke), so as Davd pointed out,  a small
modification might be needed to the rudder stops, in order to make it work,
but not that big of a project.....

I was planning to install it directly to the radial wheel, with only a 8"
radius instead of the 10" tiller arm, but still it should work.. I hope!

 This unit came with  a complete Autohelm ST6000 autopilot, but is that old
(around 20years), that is not NMEA compatible, and that's why I want to
remove the wheel pitlot assembly and install it with the ST4000+ display.
Despite what RM support said, now I find it really hard to make it work like
this, but I'll give it a try. As Tom said, the wheel pilot is very easy for
connections and maintenance, but despite the patented Troncalli's shock cord
solution (which BTW works great most of the time!!), the wheel pilot slips
when the wind is blowing hard and the weatherhelm increases...... So the
linear drive should be more reliable...

 I've heard great comments about the Nexus and Simrad/ Robertson, but
because of the price, they are out of the question. If I don't make the
linear drive work, I'll stick with the wheel pilot, or maybe I'll just
install both autopilots, hopefully, the new 20 years old ST6000 might work
and I'll have a very good back up.

Have someone installed any brand of drive unit directly to the radial
wheel??? Edson used to reccomed it, but  years ago, they changed their mind,
started reccommending the tiller arms that they started producing.

Regards,

Max

2011/11/29 David Epstein <davidepstein at earthlink.net>

Max,

Do you know if it is a Type 1 (12 in stroke) or a Type1L (16 in stroke)?  If
it is a Type 1, my notes indicate that it rated for up to a 22,000 lb boat,
requires a 10" tiller arm, and it has a maximum of +/-35 degrees of rudder
travel.   The 1L is good up to 33,000 lbs, requires a 16" tiller arm as is
also limited to +/-35 degrees.

SuperStar's rudder has about 90 degrees of travel (+/-45), so if your boat
has similar range, you may have to modify your stops on each side so that
you don't have a problem when the linear drive is in bypass.  I would think
you could be able to make the Raymarine unit work on a 38.

When I did my research, I concluded that the absolute best solution for
SuperStar would be the Nexus/ComNav HP-40 integrated linear drive (or the
AP-23 with a separate pump), as it is fast, powerful and has up to +/-50
degrees of travel with the specified tiller arm length.  I have not yet
purchased a Nexus drive unit, so I can't tell you about any firsthand
results...

David Epstein
SuperStar, #122
Marina del Rey, CA

At 12:23 PM 11/29/2011, you wrote:

I got a new one of this for free, and according to Raymarine Support,  it
can be installed with my ST400+ wheel pilot display.

Does anyone has installed one of this below deck drives on a C38 ?? If so,
any installation pics or recommendations will be appreciated!

Regards, 

-- 
Max Soto
C38 #198 ESTANCIA
Puntarenas, Costa Rica

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