[C38] Need vote for dodger design

[D McC]

Hey there Max,
The dodger project looks good and I like the design.
Just to throw a wrench into the works here are a few pics of my hard dodger 
project.
I hope to avoid using any fabric in the construction. 
We tend to toss/slide sailbags across the dodger when racing and that practice 
and the sun and oily hands took a toll on the material and stitching. 

I am using the existing frame with 2 added forward braces and will fabricate the 
hard-dodger using 1/4 inch King Starlite XL.
I am making this up as I go along but I had to stop for a while due to an eye 
injury, so what you see is as far as I have gotten. 

I hope to complete the project this Spring after eye surgery.

A few Pictures on Flickr:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/20214922@N05/sets/72157628884842325/  

~Dave McCarthy    
Cat-38 #148 ~ Pretty Lady
San Francisco

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--- On Fri, 1/13/12, Max Soto <maxsoto at gmail.com> wrote:


>From: Max Soto <maxsoto at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [C38] Need vote for dodger design
>To: hlhowell at pacbell.net, "Catalina 38 Listserve" <listserve at catalina38.org>
>Date: Friday, January 13, 2012, 11:45 AM
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>Hey Les and everybody, thanks a lot for the tips!
>I just started the dodger project. Frames have been fitted. Les, do they look 
>familiar?? I made them according to the template we took from JAce's dodger a 
>few years ago!   
>A starboard trim piece was added aft of the traveller, on each side in order to 
>attach the snaps. I'm making the patterns tomorrow, hope I manage to do a good 
>job and don't screw up with this small, but expensive project!
>Max
>
>
>2012/1/12 les <hlhowell at pacbell.net>
>
>Hi, Max,
>>       That was magic!!!!
>>       Just kidding.
>>       I put eyes on the cabin top just behind the canvas partitions
>>supporting the zipper for the middle panel of the window.  I added fold
>>on eyes on the forward dodger frame, and connected the two eyes on each
>>side with 3/4" stainless tubing with end eyes.  Then I drilled through
>>the end caps for the eyes and thrubolted them to prevent them from
>>slipping (I don't know how to weld, and couldn't afford to have someone
>>do it.  Use the really hard bits for stainless and you should be able to
>>get through the cap and tubing all four times without too much trouble.)
>>Then I added a large piece of wood to the top of the dodger that I used
>>to hold the solar panels (1x6 TEAK).  This was clamped to the dodger
>>tube on the front center and back center, and thru bolted.  I will
>>attempt to do a 3d drawing for you that will help understand how this
>>all works.  But basically the top is now stretched between the two bows
>>by the wood, and held down by posts at the front hidden behind the
>>canvass on each side of the main window.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Les H
>>
>>On Mon, 2012-01-09 at 12:07 -0600, Max Soto wrote:
>>> ok, I guess option C is the winner.
>>> I based that design on Steve S. dodger looks.. Iverson design, what
>>> could go wrong?
>>>
>>>
>>> Last weekend I was cutting and installing the frames, and noticed some
>>> potential problems, like none of the  winch handles on the cabin top
>>> won't make a full revolution,  so I installed the frames on the cabin
>>> side instead of the top for more room. I gain 2" on each side and
>>> still looks ok. Then, with the aft frame on position, installed 63"
>>> above the cockpit floor (+1" diameter tube=64" total), that the
>>> primary winch handle also, won't make a full revolution (as Mark noted
>>> a month ago). So my options are removable side panels or a very short
>>> side panels.. I don't now if in warm days, it will help to remove as
>>> much as possible from the dodger. Never been on a boat with one
>>> installed! The front window will have a zipper so I can open it.
>>> The other concern is the change in direction on the lowest part of the
>>> front window, right below the traveller. I have to redirect it forward
>>> to the hatch cover. Some people are using some kind of rail or strut
>>> for a tighter fit. When I checked Les's dodger on Jace, the dodger was
>>> a perfect fit without anything holding it down, but it was made by a
>>> professional, so I'll try to do it like it, and if I don't like the
>>> result, I install something to hold it in place like the options I
>>> have seen in some of your dodgers..
>>
>>
>>
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