[C38] Need vote for dodger design

Sun Jan 15 22:29:25 EST 2012

Dave, 

None of my business...I also sail on SF Bay and love the wind in my face..... 

I also ski and wouldn't consider wearing a helmet......I don't do trees. 

I drive a BMW motorcycle and feel the helmet law is way too much nonsense.  A few years ago a trauma surgeonl from San Francisco General spoke at Mount Diablo Hospital in Concord, California.  His take about helmets is that leave the driver with the 3 D's and I'm not talking 3D movies.  The "D's" are: disabled (broken legs), divorced, and depressed (see prior 2 items).  The driver should have ended up with one "D" = dead. 

Hope this doesn't sound too cynical. 

Just spent way too many $ fixing "Blue Eyes."  The quadrant, the prop shaft, bottom paint, hull sand and paint.  

Still havin' fun 

Patrick 

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From: "D McC" <cat38skip at yahoo.com> 
To: "Catalina 38 Listserve" <listserve at catalina38.org> 
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 1:28:20 PM 
Subject: Re: [C38] Need vote for dodger design 

Hey there Max, 
The dodger project looks good and I like the design. 
Just to throw a wrench into the works here are a few pics of my hard dodger project. 
I hope to avoid using any fabric in the construction. 
We tend to toss/slide sailbags across the dodger when racing and that practice and the sun and oily hands took a toll on the material and stitching. 
I am using the existing frame with 2 added forward braces and will fabricate the hard-dodger using 1/4 inch King Starlite XL. 
I am making this up as I go along but I had to stop for a while due to an eye injury, so what you see is as far as I have gotten. 
I hope to complete the project this Spring after eye surgery. 

A few Pictures on Flickr: 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/20214922@N05/sets/72157628884842325/   

~Dave McCarthy    
Cat-38 #148 ~ Pretty Lady 
San Francisco 

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--- On Fri, 1/13/12, Max Soto <maxsoto at gmail.com> wrote: 

From: Max Soto <maxsoto at gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [C38] Need vote for dodger design 
To: hlhowell at pacbell.net, "Catalina 38 Listserve" <listserve at catalina38.org> 
Date: Friday, January 13, 2012, 11:45 AM 

Hey Les and everybody, thanks a lot for the tips! 
I just started the dodger project. Frames have been fitted. Les, do they look familiar?? I made them according to the template we took from JAce's dodger a few years ago!    
A starboard trim piece was added aft of the traveller, on each side in order to attach the snaps. I'm making the patterns tomorrow, hope I manage to do a good job and don't screw up with this small, but expensive project! 
Max 

2012/1/12 les < hlhowell at pacbell.net > 

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Hi, Max, 
       That was magic!!!! 
       Just kidding. 
       I put eyes on the cabin top just behind the canvas partitions 
supporting the zipper for the middle panel of the window.  I added fold 
on eyes on the forward dodger frame, and connected the two eyes on each 
side with 3/4" stainless tubing with end eyes.  Then I drilled through 
the end caps for the eyes and thrubolted them to prevent them from 
slipping (I don't know how to weld, and couldn't afford to have someone 
do it.  Use the really hard bits for stainless and you should be able to 
get through the cap and tubing all four times without too much trouble.) 
Then I added a large piece of wood to the top of the dodger that I used 
to hold the solar panels (1x6 TEAK).  This was clamped to the dodger 
tube on the front center and back center, and thru bolted.  I will 
attempt to do a 3d drawing for you that will help understand how this 
all works.  But basically the top is now stretched between the two bows 
by the wood, and held down by posts at the front hidden behind the 
canvass on each side of the main window. 

Regards, 
Les H 

On Mon, 2012-01-09 at 12:07 -0600, Max Soto wrote: 
> ok, I guess option C is the winner. 
> I based that design on Steve S. dodger looks.. Iverson design, what 
> could go wrong? 
> 
> 
> Last weekend I was cutting and installing the frames, and noticed some 
> potential problems, like none of the  winch handles on the cabin top 
> won't make a full revolution,  so I installed the frames on the cabin 
> side instead of the top for more room. I gain 2" on each side and 
> still looks ok. Then, with the aft frame on position, installed 63" 
> above the cockpit floor (+1" diameter tube=64" total), that the 
> primary winch handle also, won't make a full revolution (as Mark noted 
> a month ago). So my options are removable side panels or a very short 
> side panels.. I don't now if in warm days, it will help to remove as 
> much as possible from the dodger. Never been on a boat with one 
> installed! The front window will have a zipper so I can open it. 
> The other concern is the change in direction on the lowest part of the 
> front window, right below the traveller. I have to redirect it forward 
> to the hatch cover. Some people are using some kind of rail or strut 
> for a tighter fit. When I checked Les's dodger on Jace, the dodger was 
> a perfect fit without anything holding it down, but it was made by a 
> professional, so I'll try to do it like it, and if I don't like the 
> result, I install something to hold it in place like the options I 
> have seen in some of your dodgers.. 

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